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Which is why tactics are so important. I would say no one has actually got the experience right yet, 'browser is the OS' has been true for a long time, and no o

Which is why tactics are so important. I would say no one has actually got the experience right yet, 'browser is the OS' has been true for a long time, and no one has delivered it yet. Similar to ambient computing and augmented reality.

niutech 1y ago
> no one has delivered it yet Firefox OS? Now KaiOS? The 3rd most popular mobile OS.
mattlutze 1y ago
One might suggest Cromebooks have done so well because Google got it more or less right.
- Imustaskforhelp 1y ago
  I think that they had the fact that in chromebook, they could run whole linux containers in the browser , right?
- jemmyw 1y ago
  I think Chromebooks have done so well because they're cheap and are purchased for locked down environments (education and people who really don't want complexity). Even then, I think they kind of demonstrate that the browser is NOT the OS because users and Google still felt the need to break out of the browser box, with both Android apps and Linux application support.
  - enos_feedler 1y ago
    The browser is the OS that wraps the user not the machine. Just as Linux or Windows or Android wrap the machine and manage its resources, the browser should wrap the user and manage their resources (data, time/focus etc). In this regard nobody has succeeded. The browser isn’t finished until it achieves this
    - jemmyw 1y ago
      The browser is an application that renders webpages. It doesn't need any mystical vague purpose. Further, the OS doesn't wrap the machine, that's not even a good analogy. When you wrap something you've protected it or hidden it, or even ended it. I don't need a browser to manage my time or focus. I need it to render websites efficiently so I can interact with them.
      - enos_feedler 1y ago
        The os wraps the machine. That is literally it's job. Manage hardware resources and broker them to applications
tomjakubowski 1y ago
They say the browser is the OS, and yet eww is only one small part of Emacs.
- ironmagma 1y ago
  Isn't that because eww refuses to implement JavaScript? Which isn't very e/acc of them?

niutech 1y ago

> no one has delivered it yet Firefox OS? Now KaiOS? The 3rd most popular mobile OS.

mattlutze 1y ago

One might suggest Cromebooks have done so well because Google got it more or less right.

Imustaskforhelp 1y ago
I think that they had the fact that in chromebook, they could run whole linux containers in the browser , right?
jemmyw 1y ago
I think Chromebooks have done so well because they're cheap and are purchased for locked down environments (education and people who really don't want complexity). Even then, I think they kind of demonstrate that the browser is NOT the OS because users and Google still felt the need to break out of the browser box, with both Android apps and Linux application support.
- enos_feedler 1y ago
  The browser is the OS that wraps the user not the machine. Just as Linux or Windows or Android wrap the machine and manage its resources, the browser should wrap the user and manage their resources (data, time/focus etc). In this regard nobody has succeeded. The browser isn’t finished until it achieves this
  - jemmyw 1y ago
    The browser is an application that renders webpages. It doesn't need any mystical vague purpose. Further, the OS doesn't wrap the machine, that's not even a good analogy. When you wrap something you've protected it or hidden it, or even ended it. I don't need a browser to manage my time or focus. I need it to render websites efficiently so I can interact with them.
    - enos_feedler 1y ago
      The os wraps the machine. That is literally it's job. Manage hardware resources and broker them to applications

tomjakubowski 1y ago

They say the browser is the OS, and yet eww is only one small part of Emacs.

ironmagma 1y ago
Isn't that because eww refuses to implement JavaScript? Which isn't very e/acc of them?