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I don't think that's necessary. Hollow Knight is a game whose appeal comes from exploring a massive, beautiful world and and discovering its secrets -- using a

I don't think that's necessary. Hollow Knight is a game whose appeal comes from exploring a massive, beautiful world and and discovering its secrets -- using a guide would take away a lot of the fun, at least for me. Yeah, HK is a huge game and Silksong is probably bigger; it'll take a while to play through both. But that's a good thing. Play these games for the experience of playing them, no need to rush through them just to check them off a list.

wil421 1y ago
Lots of us have work and families and don’t have time to organically figure out the insane steps to go down some of the late stage paths.
- NobodyNada 1y ago
  Of course. I usually don't 100% metroidvanias for this reason. But I also don't usually look up a guide (unless I really want to find a specific boss or secret or something). I just put the game down and come back to it later if I want to keep exploring it. There's nothing wrong with using a guide if that's how you have the most fun. But I think most people would have more fun playing Hollow Knight without one, which is why I don't think "if you [play Hollow Knight], use a guide or something" is good advice as an unqualified statement. I enjoy the experience of playing a game far more than the accomplishment of having completed it, so I'd rather enjoy a game fully and leave it unfinished than halfheartedly rush through it with a guide.
- ohdeargodno 1y ago
  And for the same reason, you don't _have_ to do Path of Pain, or Pantheon.
ycombinete 1y ago
I did about 102% of Hollow Knight, mostly without a guide and loved it. So, yes, I probably should have qualified my statement. I meant this more if my parent wanted to get through Hollow Knight quickly, as a gateway for Silksong. I say this because just thinking about playing Silksong immediately after finishing HK made me feel exhausted. I wouldn't recommend playing HK in this manner though; it's more fun to explore, and use a guide only if you really hit a wall. So, yeah in hindsight probably bad advice even after qualification.

wil421 1y ago

Lots of us have work and families and don’t have time to organically figure out the insane steps to go down some of the late stage paths.

NobodyNada 1y ago
Of course. I usually don't 100% metroidvanias for this reason. But I also don't usually look up a guide (unless I really want to find a specific boss or secret or something). I just put the game down and come back to it later if I want to keep exploring it. There's nothing wrong with using a guide if that's how you have the most fun. But I think most people would have more fun playing Hollow Knight without one, which is why I don't think "if you [play Hollow Knight], use a guide or something" is good advice as an unqualified statement. I enjoy the experience of playing a game far more than the accomplishment of having completed it, so I'd rather enjoy a game fully and leave it unfinished than halfheartedly rush through it with a guide.
ohdeargodno 1y ago
And for the same reason, you don't _have_ to do Path of Pain, or Pantheon.

ycombinete 1y ago

I did about 102% of Hollow Knight, mostly without a guide and loved it. So, yes, I probably should have qualified my statement. I meant this more if my parent wanted to get through Hollow Knight quickly, as a gateway for Silksong. I say this because just thinking about playing Silksong immediately after finishing HK made me feel exhausted. I wouldn't recommend playing HK in this manner though; it's more fun to explore, and use a guide only if you really hit a wall. So, yeah in hindsight probably bad advice even after qualification.