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"It's also illogical to encourage this behavior if your goal is protesting." Yeah, if you lack imagination ;) There are many, many forms of protesting that do
by chaps 1y ago
"It's also illogical to encourage this behavior if your goal is protesting."
Yeah, if you lack imagination ;)
There are many, many forms of protesting that don't escalate to destruction. I really think you're exaggerating what the risks are here. For one, VPNs and disposable accounts exist.
- Aurornis 1y ago> I really think you're exaggerating what the risks are here Not exaggerating. Have had multiple friends lose Discord accounts suddenly because an old Discord they forgot about was flagged for illegal activity. There's an entire subreddit full of similar posts.
- chaps 1y agoYes, I'm aware that discord does it. But what I'm responding to is you saying that that the act of clicking a discord link will lead to a ban. That's an exaggeration.
- freedomben 1y agoI don't disagree, but you are arguing against a strawman that was started upthread. GP didn't say they were afraid to look at countermeasures, they were questioning the wisdom of clicking a random link that goes to a closed platform that collects a ton of surveillance data and has a history of sharing with law enforcement. I try to avoid Discord for everything, regardless how innocuous the subject matter is.
- chaps 1y agoWe're agreement that discord sucks and should not be used for these sorts of communities. But I truly don't think that clicking on a discord link that already has 1500 people in it is going to be problematic to any degree that would lead to prosecution, banning, etc.
- Aurornis 1y ago> But I truly don't think that clicking on a discord link that already has 1500 people in it is going to be problematic to any degree that would lead to prosecution, banning, etc. This comment section is about efforts to avoid driving past ALPR cameras that might collect your license plate number while doing innocuous driving around. Do you not see the logical inconsistency with encouraging people to join a Discord from a comment that talks about vandalizing government property, an actual crime?
- Aurornis 1y ago> they were questioning the wisdom of clicking a random link that goes to a closed platform that collects a ton of surveillance data and has a history of sharing with law enforcement Surprisingly ironic, given that the topic is about security cameras from a company that collects data and shares it with law enforcement.
- chaps 1y agoIt's not ironic at all. It doesn't take much threat modeling to understand that the risk of getting banned from discord isn't the same risk. And whatever risk there is becomes offset by a need to want to protect your loved ones. If you don't want to put yourself into a limited risky situation, then you're good. But braver people will and that's okay.
- Aurornis 1y agoSo avoiding ALPR security cameras while doing innocuous driving: Important for privacy Joining random Discord links from people discussing how to vandalize government property (a literal crime): Perfectly fine, nothing to worry about, just click the link and don't ask questions?
- chaps 1y agoPlease respond to the strongest plausible interpretation of what someone says, not a weaker one that's easier to criticize. Assume good faith.
- Aurornis 1y ago> Yeah, if you lack imagination ;) > There are many, many forms of protesting that don't escalate to destruction. The comment with the Discord was giving advice for vandalizing the cameras. Direct quote to what I was responding to: > you can spraypaint the lenses and/or the solar panels. If you dont want to get caught with spraypaint, use nutella or peanut butter. Its sticky and easily spreadable.
- chaps 1y agoYou cropped out the first part that implicitly indicates that there are more forms of protesting than direct action. I get what your point is, but I think you're making a mountain out of an ant hill. Just don't click the damn link lmao.