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This naming convention is genuinely terrible. It's as if they took a slide out of an old Microsoft marketing PowerPoint. When will we see the ID.Silverlight, p

by 1970-01-01 1y ago

This naming convention is genuinely terrible. It's as if they took a slide out of an old Microsoft marketing PowerPoint. When will we see the ID.Silverlight, part of the .NET family of EVs?

sokoloff 1y ago
I’m not sure which half of the name you find terrible. I read it somewhat more positively (or at least clear in communications) as “ID. means electric” and “Polo” means what Polo has always meant in the VW lineup: their mini/compact entry-level car in the lineup.
- delecti 1y ago
  How do you say it though? "Eye Dee Dot Polo"? "Id Polo"? It looks fine given that explanation, but it also needs to be words that people can speak.
  - piva00 1y ago
    The same way as the ID.3, ID.4, etc. are said: Eye Dee Three, Eye Dee Four, Eye Dee Polo.
  - alistairSH 1y ago
    I assume it's "Eye Dee Polo" - at least that's how I've heard everybody say the bus/van... Id.Buzz = Eye Dee Buzz.
    - balamatom 1y ago
      Then why fut a pucking dot in there?! What sucking fense does it make?
      - deleted 1y ago
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  - trenchpilgrim 1y ago
    In German, the ID is pronounced like "idee", the German word for "idea".
    - 1718627440 1y ago
      As a German, I would pronounce it as English I. D. It isn't uncommon for companies to use (partially) english names.
  - some_random 1y ago
    Either one seems totally fine? We got people saying "ay-ch tee tee pee ess colon slash slash" somehow, surely this can't be that tricky
- rsynnott 1y ago
  That's Up, not Polo, tho (maybe that'll be what would've been called the ID.1?)
rsynnott 1y ago
They may just be backing off the ID.number thing. Their _old_ electric car name was the normal car name with an 'e' in front (eGolf, eUp); feels kind of like they're going back to some version of that. Which seems sensible, honestly; ID.3 through 8 either currently exist or will soon. Who's going to keep track of which is which?
- Zigurd 1y ago
  By comparison, anyway, "Leaf" looks pretty good. While iSomething, or 'e', is derivative and quickly dated. Who would even think of naming a technology product iSomething as if you found this Internet thing just last week. A measure of EVS going mainstream will be that you don't name them anything distinctive. You name them like a car.
  - rsynnott 1y ago
    I get the impression that VW may be deliberately going for weird branding and styling precisely _because_ the eUp and eGolf (apart from the names) were _too_ car-like; they really looked almost identical to the petrol variants, and I think for about a decade people didn't realise that VW made electric cars at all. A lot of people thought the ID.3 and 4 were their first EVs. Hyundai also seems to have done well with their notably-weird-looking Ioniq series. It seems like, at least for the moment, the markets actually want electric cars to be a bit weird.
Hamuko 1y ago
Terrible naming and EVs go hand in hand. Tesla's S3XY is quite bad in that it's a shit joke and there's just a random number instead of a letter because you couldn't make it the Model E. And Cybertruck just completely breaks the form further. Audi decided to name their cars "t-urd". They also blew their load early, since the first EV they made was just called the "Audi t-urd", and then they had to rename it to the "Audi Q8 t-urd" when they realised that they were going to make more than one EV model. Mercedes-Benz decided that the electric version of the S-Class should be the EQS, the electric version of the E-Class should be the EQE, the electric versions of the GLS and GLE should be called the EQS SUV and EQE SUV, and that the electric version of the G-Class should be called the "Mercedes-Benz G580 with EQ Technology". Oh, and the electric CLA is just called the CLA. BMW's lineup is pretty inoffensive in that it's quite logical, as the electric equivalent of the 4 Series is the i4, the electric equivalent of the 5 Series is the i5, and so on. Except that the electric equivalent of the BMW X5 is the BMW iX when the electric equivalent of the BMW X1 is the BMW iX1. Oh, and the BMW i8 isn't even an electric car – it's a hybrid. BYD's electric cars also make no sense. Why does the same car maker have names like the "BYD Dolphin" and "BYD Seal" next to a car named "BYD Sealion 7" and "BYD Atto 3"? What determines whether or not a BYD model has a number in the name or not? And why is the fully electric one called the "BYD Seal" but the hybrid one is called the "BYD Seal 6 DM-i"? Rivian's makes sense so far, since they have the biggest R1, the more medium R2 and the compact R3. But going by this logic, the R4 should be an even smaller car than the R3. Either that, or the numbering has no bearing on where in the lineup the car actually falls, just what was released first. Polestar has that same exact problem that Rivian might have in the future: the Polestar 2 is smaller than the Polestar 3 and the Polestar 3 is bigger than the Polestar 4, and the Polestar 4 is smaller than the Polestar 5. And the Polestar 6 is probably going to be more upmarket than any other Polestar, except the Polestar 1, which isn't an EV. Basically, the number says nothing about the car except when it was first released. The Toyota bZ4X, which stands for "beyond Zero" (as in emissions) 4 (from the similarly sized RAV4) "crossover", is also just a downright awful name. Same for the Honda E:NY1. I don't know what inspired these two to make such awful and complex names for their EVs. And finally: the Porsche Taycan Turbo doesn't actually have a turbo. The "turbo" in the name just means "better" in the style of "TurboGrafx-16". Yes, I could rant about car names all day long. Don't even ask me about how Ferrari names their cars.

This naming convention is genuinely terrible. It's as if they took a slide out of an old Microsoft marketing PowerPoint. When will we see the ID.Silverlight, part of the .NET family of EVs?

sokoloff 1y ago

I’m not sure which half of the name you find terrible. I read it somewhat more positively (or at least clear in communications) as “ID. means electric” and “Polo” means what Polo has always meant in the VW lineup: their mini/compact entry-level car in the lineup.

delecti 1y ago
How do you say it though? "Eye Dee Dot Polo"? "Id Polo"? It looks fine given that explanation, but it also needs to be words that people can speak.
- piva00 1y ago
  The same way as the ID.3, ID.4, etc. are said: Eye Dee Three, Eye Dee Four, Eye Dee Polo.
- alistairSH 1y ago
  I assume it's "Eye Dee Polo" - at least that's how I've heard everybody say the bus/van... Id.Buzz = Eye Dee Buzz.
  - balamatom 1y ago
    Then why fut a pucking dot in there?! What sucking fense does it make?
    - deleted 1y ago
      [deleted]
- trenchpilgrim 1y ago
  In German, the ID is pronounced like "idee", the German word for "idea".
  - 1718627440 1y ago
    As a German, I would pronounce it as English I. D. It isn't uncommon for companies to use (partially) english names.
- some_random 1y ago
  Either one seems totally fine? We got people saying "ay-ch tee tee pee ess colon slash slash" somehow, surely this can't be that tricky
rsynnott 1y ago
That's Up, not Polo, tho (maybe that'll be what would've been called the ID.1?)

rsynnott 1y ago

They may just be backing off the ID.number thing. Their _old_ electric car name was the normal car name with an 'e' in front (eGolf, eUp); feels kind of like they're going back to some version of that. Which seems sensible, honestly; ID.3 through 8 either currently exist or will soon. Who's going to keep track of which is which?

Zigurd 1y ago
By comparison, anyway, "Leaf" looks pretty good. While iSomething, or 'e', is derivative and quickly dated. Who would even think of naming a technology product iSomething as if you found this Internet thing just last week. A measure of EVS going mainstream will be that you don't name them anything distinctive. You name them like a car.
- rsynnott 1y ago
  I get the impression that VW may be deliberately going for weird branding and styling precisely _because_ the eUp and eGolf (apart from the names) were _too_ car-like; they really looked almost identical to the petrol variants, and I think for about a decade people didn't realise that VW made electric cars at all. A lot of people thought the ID.3 and 4 were their first EVs. Hyundai also seems to have done well with their notably-weird-looking Ioniq series. It seems like, at least for the moment, the markets actually want electric cars to be a bit weird.

Hamuko 1y ago

Terrible naming and EVs go hand in hand. Tesla's S3XY is quite bad in that it's a shit joke and there's just a random number instead of a letter because you couldn't make it the Model E. And Cybertruck just completely breaks the form further. Audi decided to name their cars "t-urd". They also blew their load early, since the first EV they made was just called the "Audi t-urd", and then they had to rename it to the "Audi Q8 t-urd" when they realised that they were going to make more than one EV model. Mercedes-Benz decided that the electric version of the S-Class should be the EQS, the electric version of the E-Class should be the EQE, the electric versions of the GLS and GLE should be called the EQS SUV and EQE SUV, and that the electric version of the G-Class should be called the "Mercedes-Benz G580 with EQ Technology". Oh, and the electric CLA is just called the CLA. BMW's lineup is pretty inoffensive in that it's quite logical, as the electric equivalent of the 4 Series is the i4, the electric equivalent of the 5 Series is the i5, and so on. Except that the electric equivalent of the BMW X5 is the BMW iX when the electric equivalent of the BMW X1 is the BMW iX1. Oh, and the BMW i8 isn't even an electric car – it's a hybrid. BYD's electric cars also make no sense. Why does the same car maker have names like the "BYD Dolphin" and "BYD Seal" next to a car named "BYD Sealion 7" and "BYD Atto 3"? What determines whether or not a BYD model has a number in the name or not? And why is the fully electric one called the "BYD Seal" but the hybrid one is called the "BYD Seal 6 DM-i"? Rivian's makes sense so far, since they have the biggest R1, the more medium R2 and the compact R3. But going by this logic, the R4 should be an even smaller car than the R3. Either that, or the numbering has no bearing on where in the lineup the car actually falls, just what was released first. Polestar has that same exact problem that Rivian might have in the future: the Polestar 2 is smaller than the Polestar 3 and the Polestar 3 is bigger than the Polestar 4, and the Polestar 4 is smaller than the Polestar 5. And the Polestar 6 is probably going to be more upmarket than any other Polestar, except the Polestar 1, which isn't an EV. Basically, the number says nothing about the car except when it was first released. The Toyota bZ4X, which stands for "beyond Zero" (as in emissions) 4 (from the similarly sized RAV4) "crossover", is also just a downright awful name. Same for the Honda E:NY1. I don't know what inspired these two to make such awful and complex names for their EVs. And finally: the Porsche Taycan Turbo doesn't actually have a turbo. The "turbo" in the name just means "better" in the style of "TurboGrafx-16". Yes, I could rant about car names all day long. Don't even ask me about how Ferrari names their cars.