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I have fully vibe coded several apps at this point (none professionally, but stuff I actively use in my life). One thing I don't think everyone understands is t

I have fully vibe coded several apps at this point (none professionally, but stuff I actively use in my life). One thing I don't think everyone understands is that it still takes time. I need to do countless rounds of testing, describing the exact problem I find, rinse and repeat again and again for hours and hours. I happen to enjoy this way of working and I do think it's faster than writing the code myself, but it's not fast.

dangus 1y ago
I find that the main way it saves time is in situations where yes I know how to write code but I am looking to write something in a domain I’m less familiar with. And regex.
- ta12653421 1y ago
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patapong 1y ago
Yep agreed... It's a bit like sifting gold, most of what it produces is crap, but if you stay with it long enough and put in enough effort you will eventually have something that works well. Part of the issue is that it is so fast to get to a working prototype that it feels like you are almost there, but there is a lot of effort to go.
- jrochkind1 1y ago
  > it is so fast to get to a working prototype that it feels like you are almost there, but there is a lot of effort to go. Not too different in that respect from non-AI-assisted coding! The "last 10%" is always more like 50-80%.
- yetihehe 1y ago
  > that it feels like you are almost there, but there is a lot of effort to go. People made tools specifically to make templates look like templates and not a finished product, just because client was ready to push the product just after seeing real looking mockups of interface.
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- Sharlin 1y ago
  Us devs always (justifiably) complain how the PHBs of the world go all "looks great, now ship it" when presented a minimal prototype hacked together in a week, missing 95% of all the time-consuming parts. Apparently it’s easy to fall into the same trap even when you should know better…
some-guy 1y ago
Not only that, but the requirements are far more lax when it's your own project. In an enterprise setting on a 14-year old codebase (where this 80%-reduced-timeframe project lies), vibe coding doesn't work at all! PMs and managers simply do not understand the nuances of these tools.

dangus 1y ago

I find that the main way it saves time is in situations where yes I know how to write code but I am looking to write something in a domain I’m less familiar with. And regex.

ta12653421 1y ago
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patapong 1y ago

Yep agreed... It's a bit like sifting gold, most of what it produces is crap, but if you stay with it long enough and put in enough effort you will eventually have something that works well. Part of the issue is that it is so fast to get to a working prototype that it feels like you are almost there, but there is a lot of effort to go.

jrochkind1 1y ago
> it is so fast to get to a working prototype that it feels like you are almost there, but there is a lot of effort to go. Not too different in that respect from non-AI-assisted coding! The "last 10%" is always more like 50-80%.
yetihehe 1y ago
> that it feels like you are almost there, but there is a lot of effort to go. People made tools specifically to make templates look like templates and not a finished product, just because client was ready to push the product just after seeing real looking mockups of interface.
- deleted 1y ago
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Sharlin 1y ago
Us devs always (justifiably) complain how the PHBs of the world go all "looks great, now ship it" when presented a minimal prototype hacked together in a week, missing 95% of all the time-consuming parts. Apparently it’s easy to fall into the same trap even when you should know better…

some-guy 1y ago

Not only that, but the requirements are far more lax when it's your own project. In an enterprise setting on a 14-year old codebase (where this 80%-reduced-timeframe project lies), vibe coding doesn't work at all! PMs and managers simply do not understand the nuances of these tools.