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I might have chosen my words slightly differently but my point still stands. Apple has an incredibly well known horrible reputation inside of standards meetings
by mdhb 1y ago
I might have chosen my words slightly differently but my point still stands. Apple has an incredibly well known horrible reputation inside of standards meetings and bodies from their peers. It has been that way for well over a decade at this point. It’s not a one off thing and it’s not a subtle thing. It’s a very strong and very bad reputation they have built.
To be fair to them, I think a very meaningful part of that comes from upper management and is not necessarily the fault of the representative in the room and multiple people have gone out of their way to make that point to me explicitly and I think it’s worth repeating here.
But there is absolutely 100% a huge culture problem inside of Apple on this specific topic.
- slightlyoff 1y agoOriginal author of the article here; I went out on a limb to document a bit of this in a footnote to a post a few years ago. Saying that it is unusual to call this behaviour out is a drastic understatement: https://infrequently.org/2023/02/safari-16-4-is-an-admission/#fn-u-turns-1 https://infrequently.org/2023/02/safari-16-4-is-an-admission... And it was only this year that I wrote up the broader thesis: https://infrequently.org/2025/08/how-do-committees-fail-to-invent/ https://infrequently.org/2025/08/how-do-committees-fail-to-i... Most of my current and former colleagues wouldn't dare for (legitimate) fear of reprisal in the form of even worse blockage in important design areas.
- mdhb 1y agoIt’s even worse than I described. The links proved here are incredibly damning and are exactly the kind of shit I’ve heard from many different people over many years at this point. Don’t gaslight me and others and tell me there isn’t a problem here when there clearly is.
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