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Are people really going to keep using these AI tools if they start shoving ads down our throats?

ornornor 1y ago
Worked for every tech company so far.
layoric 1y ago
Just by the nature of the product, the manipulation will be a lot more subtle, and likely more successful than traditional ads..
- jonahx 1y ago
  It's terrifying.
  - apercu 1y ago
    And yet somehow it's even worse.
- ahartmetz 1y ago
  Maybe something good comes out of the work to only push products that actually exist. /s
- rjh29 1y ago
  So far it's about as subtle as a slap to the face. If you set ChatGPT's personality to 'straight-shooting' it starts every answer with "blunt", "tell it like it is" or "unvarnished" and permeates that across the whole reply; by its very nature, it is unable to be subtle about anything.
  - CamperBob2 1y ago
    That hasn't been true for a while IME. Did you select 'Robot' as the personality?
    - rjh29 1y ago
      I have Default personality with the traits field set to straight-shooter ("Tell it like it is; don't sugar-coat responses.") I'll try the robot one, thanks.
      - CamperBob2 1y ago
        Yeah, that's a recent addition, as far as I can tell. It became available in my account a few weeks ago. I currently use 'Robot' mode, call myself a 'Researcher', and use these custom instructions: Answer concisely when appropriate, more extensively when necessary. Avoid rhetorical flourishes, bonhomie, and (above all) cliches. Take a forward-thinking view. OK to be mildly positive and encouraging but NEVER sycophantic or cloying. Above all, NEVER use the phrase "You're absolutely right." Rather than "Let me know if..." style continuations, you may list a set of prompts to explore further topics, but only when clearly appropriate. Pretty happy with the results so far. Very low BS factor (although it does ignore the last part sometimes.)
- Atlas667 1y ago
  "I feel like something is missing in my life" > Thinking... > Have you ever had that energetic and refreshing feeling after a Baja Blast(TM)?
- ants_everywhere 1y ago
  This is true, but it doesn't go far enough. Google could serve you ads, like LLMs will. But LLMs can be used to astroturf internet spaces. Which means they allow everyone the ability to serve ads and manipulate. It's no longer just limited to the company providing the original service.
  - cutemonster 1y ago
    I think they'd inject ads during training (too). You and everyone cannot do that; Google can.
    - ants_everywhere 1y ago
      why would they inject ads during training?
babelfish 1y ago
Do you use any free web search tool?
- dcchambers 1y ago
  I actually switched from Google to Kagi a few years ago. Whenever possible I avoid products with advertisements.
jazzyjackson 1y ago
Check out https://deep.ai https://deep.ai lots of people who don't have $20/month to spend on a chatbot are happy to have ad impressions subsidize what model they get to use

Worked for every tech company so far.

Just by the nature of the product, the manipulation will be a lot more subtle, and likely more successful than traditional ads..

jonahx 1y ago
It's terrifying.
- apercu 1y ago
  And yet somehow it's even worse.
ahartmetz 1y ago
Maybe something good comes out of the work to only push products that actually exist. /s
rjh29 1y ago
So far it's about as subtle as a slap to the face. If you set ChatGPT's personality to 'straight-shooting' it starts every answer with "blunt", "tell it like it is" or "unvarnished" and permeates that across the whole reply; by its very nature, it is unable to be subtle about anything.
- CamperBob2 1y ago
  That hasn't been true for a while IME. Did you select 'Robot' as the personality?
  - rjh29 1y ago
    I have Default personality with the traits field set to straight-shooter ("Tell it like it is; don't sugar-coat responses.") I'll try the robot one, thanks.
    - CamperBob2 1y ago
      Yeah, that's a recent addition, as far as I can tell. It became available in my account a few weeks ago. I currently use 'Robot' mode, call myself a 'Researcher', and use these custom instructions: Answer concisely when appropriate, more extensively when necessary. Avoid rhetorical flourishes, bonhomie, and (above all) cliches. Take a forward-thinking view. OK to be mildly positive and encouraging but NEVER sycophantic or cloying. Above all, NEVER use the phrase "You're absolutely right." Rather than "Let me know if..." style continuations, you may list a set of prompts to explore further topics, but only when clearly appropriate. Pretty happy with the results so far. Very low BS factor (although it does ignore the last part sometimes.)
Atlas667 1y ago
"I feel like something is missing in my life" > Thinking... > Have you ever had that energetic and refreshing feeling after a Baja Blast(TM)?
ants_everywhere 1y ago
This is true, but it doesn't go far enough. Google could serve you ads, like LLMs will. But LLMs can be used to astroturf internet spaces. Which means they allow everyone the ability to serve ads and manipulate. It's no longer just limited to the company providing the original service.
- cutemonster 1y ago
  I think they'd inject ads during training (too). You and everyone cannot do that; Google can.
  - ants_everywhere 1y ago
    why would they inject ads during training?

babelfish 1y ago

Do you use any free web search tool?

dcchambers 1y ago
I actually switched from Google to Kagi a few years ago. Whenever possible I avoid products with advertisements.

jazzyjackson 1y ago

Check out https://deep.ai https://deep.ai lots of people who don't have $20/month to spend on a chatbot are happy to have ad impressions subsidize what model they get to use