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Steel-man it: Perhaps DeSantis and the other geniuses in Tallahassee are simply incentivizing the Florida population to develop herd immunity to polio, measles,

Steel-man it: Perhaps DeSantis and the other geniuses in Tallahassee are simply incentivizing the Florida population to develop herd immunity to polio, measles, and meningitis.

krapp 1y ago
People aren't going to "develop herd immunity to polio, measles, and meningitis," they're just going to get sick and die en masse. Herd immunity at the scale of modern societies requires mandatory widespread vaccinations.
- treetalker 1y ago
  I agree with this and the other responses I have seen so far. I was simply trying to make the Florida argument as strong as I could — which is not very strong, because once again Florida government is being hare-brained.
  - Tadpole9181 1y ago
    Defending these policies is actively harmful. Why in the world would you do that? Actual, real-world policy being created that will cause children to die or be crippled for life is something to joke about or try to justify? Are we going to steel man Nazism next?
    - krapp 1y ago
      To be fair to treetalker, we're supposed to use the strongest possible interpretation per the guidelines. Doing so isn't implicit defense or advocacy. I sometimes take positions I don't necessarily believe in if I think it will spur on better discussion, there's nothing wrong with it.
    - treetalker 1y ago
      Apparently my comment was not dripping with enough sarcasm. In no way am I defending this — quite the opposite.
triceratops 1y ago
> incentivizing the Florida population to develop herd immunity I thought these "freedom" type people didn't like being sheep.
dwattttt 1y ago
Yes, most of the survivors will have developed immunities. There's a catch in that sentence if you read it carefully.
aredox 1y ago
Like the herd immunity that made polio measles and meningitis extinct in the millenia before the invention of vaccines... I really wish sometimes RFK jr went through with his idea to let avian flu "rip through" poultry farms. The complete collapse of chicken farming would have made things clear.
fzeroracer 1y ago
Unfortunately, one of the lesser-known facts about measles is that it causes your immune system to forget how it previously fought other diseases. So if it suddenly flares up in a community, everyone who catches it is now vulnerable to a second round of other diseases.
_DeadFred_ 1y ago
This is what they have used their political authority/power to bring back into our every day lives: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfoxqghXxEs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfoxqghXxEs

Steel-man it: Perhaps DeSantis and the other geniuses in Tallahassee are simply incentivizing the Florida population to develop herd immunity to polio, measles, and meningitis.

krapp 1y ago

People aren't going to "develop herd immunity to polio, measles, and meningitis," they're just going to get sick and die en masse. Herd immunity at the scale of modern societies requires mandatory widespread vaccinations.

treetalker 1y ago
I agree with this and the other responses I have seen so far. I was simply trying to make the Florida argument as strong as I could — which is not very strong, because once again Florida government is being hare-brained.
- Tadpole9181 1y ago
  Defending these policies is actively harmful. Why in the world would you do that? Actual, real-world policy being created that will cause children to die or be crippled for life is something to joke about or try to justify? Are we going to steel man Nazism next?
  - krapp 1y ago
    To be fair to treetalker, we're supposed to use the strongest possible interpretation per the guidelines. Doing so isn't implicit defense or advocacy. I sometimes take positions I don't necessarily believe in if I think it will spur on better discussion, there's nothing wrong with it.
  - treetalker 1y ago
    Apparently my comment was not dripping with enough sarcasm. In no way am I defending this — quite the opposite.

triceratops 1y ago

> incentivizing the Florida population to develop herd immunity I thought these "freedom" type people didn't like being sheep.

dwattttt 1y ago

Yes, most of the survivors will have developed immunities. There's a catch in that sentence if you read it carefully.

aredox 1y ago

Like the herd immunity that made polio measles and meningitis extinct in the millenia before the invention of vaccines... I really wish sometimes RFK jr went through with his idea to let avian flu "rip through" poultry farms. The complete collapse of chicken farming would have made things clear.

fzeroracer 1y ago

Unfortunately, one of the lesser-known facts about measles is that it causes your immune system to forget how it previously fought other diseases. So if it suddenly flares up in a community, everyone who catches it is now vulnerable to a second round of other diseases.

_DeadFred_ 1y ago

This is what they have used their political authority/power to bring back into our every day lives: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfoxqghXxEs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfoxqghXxEs