4 ms·

So...nothing.

digitaltrees 1y ago
Did you miss the point about it being built on a fundamentally better tech stack by a team with a track record of better design decisions?
robinhood 1y ago
Your comment is as insulting as it is indicative of a complete lack of knowledge about the world of editors and software development in general.
- veber-alex 1y ago
  If you think "build by atom team" and "not electron" are any kind of serious advantage for any peace of software than your are the one who lacks knowledge about software development.
  - rvnx 1y ago
    Made me think about: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43041923 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43041923 where they mention Atom as well
    - conartist6 1y ago
      It would be relevant that they were the team behind Atom if they seemed to understand the lessons of Atom... Instead of learning from what worked and fixing what didn't, they just threw everything away and wandered off in some totally different direction. They did the reactionary kind of learning instead of the theory-building kind: https://xkcd.com/242/ https://xkcd.com/242/
- sexyman48 1y ago
  A complete lack of knowledge? At least GP understood 90% of his peers don't know vscode is built on a browser framework, and wouldn't care.
rvnx 1y ago
I think you do not understand the value proposition of Zed. It is an editor made for people who are used to double-clicking individual files rather than opening a folder in VS Code, so they close and open their editor dozens or even hundreds of times per day. Let's say VS Code takes 5 seconds to boot. Some programmers may argue: "yes, I spend 3 hours on a project or just leave it open overnight, so 5 seconds per week is nothing" But here is not the case, it is for programmers who come from Notepad/Sublime/Notepad++/emacs/vi, and who opens a single file and closes the editor right after. If you work 2 hours, maybe 4 files per minute, this means 120 * 4 openings = 480 openings. It means you would have wasted 2400 seconds (40 minutes per day!) waiting for VS Code to open (about 33% of the 2-hour work session spent waiting) Yes, like with Notepad or Zed, you lose some features like Colors or Syntax checking, but still, time is the most precious thing in life. For users who come from very advanced but slow text editors like Microsoft Word (used in coding exams: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/76102874/single-and-double-quotes-from-word-document-to-vs-code https://stackoverflow.com/questions/76102874/single-and-doub... or programming courses: https://youtu.be/0TVugOJtAiU?t=162 https://youtu.be/0TVugOJtAiU?t=162 ), this is truly revolutionary and life-changing.
- veber-alex 1y ago
  You are right. I don't understand. How can any software developer work when they need to open and close 4 files per minute? I have never met or heard of anyone working like this.
  - typpilol 1y ago
    Right lol. It's so ridiculous
- deleted 1y ago
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- bergheim 1y ago
  This has to be a joke. No one ever closes emacs.

So...nothing.

Did you miss the point about it being built on a fundamentally better tech stack by a team with a track record of better design decisions?

robinhood 1y ago

Your comment is as insulting as it is indicative of a complete lack of knowledge about the world of editors and software development in general.

veber-alex 1y ago
If you think "build by atom team" and "not electron" are any kind of serious advantage for any peace of software than your are the one who lacks knowledge about software development.
- rvnx 1y ago
  Made me think about: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43041923 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43041923 where they mention Atom as well
  - conartist6 1y ago
    It would be relevant that they were the team behind Atom if they seemed to understand the lessons of Atom... Instead of learning from what worked and fixing what didn't, they just threw everything away and wandered off in some totally different direction. They did the reactionary kind of learning instead of the theory-building kind: https://xkcd.com/242/ https://xkcd.com/242/
sexyman48 1y ago
A complete lack of knowledge? At least GP understood 90% of his peers don't know vscode is built on a browser framework, and wouldn't care.

rvnx 1y ago

I think you do not understand the value proposition of Zed. It is an editor made for people who are used to double-clicking individual files rather than opening a folder in VS Code, so they close and open their editor dozens or even hundreds of times per day. Let's say VS Code takes 5 seconds to boot. Some programmers may argue: "yes, I spend 3 hours on a project or just leave it open overnight, so 5 seconds per week is nothing" But here is not the case, it is for programmers who come from Notepad/Sublime/Notepad++/emacs/vi, and who opens a single file and closes the editor right after. If you work 2 hours, maybe 4 files per minute, this means 120 * 4 openings = 480 openings. It means you would have wasted 2400 seconds (40 minutes per day!) waiting for VS Code to open (about 33% of the 2-hour work session spent waiting) Yes, like with Notepad or Zed, you lose some features like Colors or Syntax checking, but still, time is the most precious thing in life. For users who come from very advanced but slow text editors like Microsoft Word (used in coding exams: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/76102874/single-and-double-quotes-from-word-document-to-vs-code https://stackoverflow.com/questions/76102874/single-and-doub... or programming courses: https://youtu.be/0TVugOJtAiU?t=162 https://youtu.be/0TVugOJtAiU?t=162 ), this is truly revolutionary and life-changing.

veber-alex 1y ago
You are right. I don't understand. How can any software developer work when they need to open and close 4 files per minute? I have never met or heard of anyone working like this.
- typpilol 1y ago
  Right lol. It's so ridiculous
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bergheim 1y ago
This has to be a joke. No one ever closes emacs.