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Based on various studies about things like acetaminophen toxicity, effects of screens on nervous system and eye health, effects of eating ultra processed foods,
by rogerkirkness 1y ago
Based on various studies about things like acetaminophen toxicity, effects of screens on nervous system and eye health, effects of eating ultra processed foods, etc. we know that anything that harms kids tends to harm adults, just less acutely. I think realistically energy drinks are just not healthy for humans. But it's interesting how we moralize harms to kids while enabling them for adults.
- barnabee 1y agoIt’s reasonable to allow adults to choose to harm themselves. It’s far less reasonable to allow companies to advertise and promote that harm as if it’s exciting and beneficial to anyone.
- kiba 1y agoReasonable? It's still not reasonable from an individual perspective, but good luck enforcing a draconian rule about not drinking alcohol. The harm outweigh the benefit. But at the same time, there's basically no benefit to consuming alcoholic beverages that could be achieved some other ways,
- IAmBroom 1y ago> It's still not reasonable from an individual perspective You actually believe that? Adults shouldn't have the right to get tattooed, get spanked in the bedroom, drink alcohol, eat cake when they're obese?
- kiba 1y agoIt's pretty damn clear as to how bad alcohol is. People went to jail, and lives ended because of alcohol. The downside is huge, arguably overwhelmingly not a net positive for humanity. Make of that what you will. Note that I didn't say we shouldn't have the right to put alcohol in our bodies. There are also negative consequences to prohibition, as we have seen with the drug war. It's a disaster.
- forgetfreeman 1y agoWhile it seems clear that permitting adults to do what suits them is broadly reasonable it is less clear that it is reasonable to permit business models that profit from individuals harming themselves with or without marketing.
- bapak 1y ago> it's interesting how we moralize harms to kids while enabling them for adults I don't find that interesting. It applies to anything that adults do, even things as basic and "positive" as having a job. Working 8 hours at 8? Absolutely not. Working 8 hours at 18? Double it and give it to the next person.
- fluoridation 1y agoIf you don't want to drink energy drinks then don't do it. Don't tell others what to do.
- anthk 1y agoGood luck enjoying diabetus before your 50's.
- fluoridation 1y agoMy condemnation does not imply my consumption of energy drinks. I tried a couple and found them distasteful. There are more pleasant ways of getting caffeine.
- symlinkk 1y agoMost are zero sugar
- SirFatty 1y agoIf you don't want to shoot heroine then don't do it. Don't tell others what to do.
- fluoridation 1y agoI am against drug prohibition, yes.
- kiba 1y agoIt's perfectly reasonable to be against both drug prohibition and drug abuse.
- fluoridation 1y agoCorrect, but since the topic is banning consumption, not abuse, it's not really relevant.
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- sniffers 1y agoI think the thinking is something along the lines of adults can understand the consequences better. I actually am not certain I buy that, as adults rarely understand the consequences of their actions, broadly.
- forgetfreeman 1y agoI'd counter that an individual who routinely fails to understand the consequences of their actions is by definition not an adult. Pondering the full implications of this are left as an exercise.
- fluoridation 1y ago"Understanding the consequences of one's actions" has never been part of the definition of "adult". Generally speaking, a mammal reaches adulthood when it stops growing.
- forgetfreeman 1y agoYour belief that comprehension of consequences isn't part of the definition of "adult" suggests you are young and presents a stark commentary. Past generations considered this character the bedrock that adult behavior rested upon. Additionally, casually tossing out the term "mammal", as though human behavior lends itself to comparison with the activities of groundhogs (etc) seems like a bit of a non sequitur.
- fluoridation 1y agoWikipedia: >An adult is an animal that has reached full growth. The biological definition of adult is an organism that has reached sexual maturity and thus capable of reproduction. >In the human context, the term adult has meanings associated with social and legal concepts. In contrast to a non-adult or "minor", a legal adult is a person who has attained the age of majority and is therefore regarded as independent, self-sufficient, and responsible. They may also be regarded as "majors". The typical age of attaining adulthood for humans is 18 years, although definition may vary by country. Merriam-Webster: >(adjective) fully developed and mature >(noun) one that is adult; especially: a human being after an age (such as 21) specified by law Your definition of "adult" is one no one uses. >Past generations considered this character the bedrock that adult behavior rested upon. Even if I grant that that's true, why should I care? Past generations killed infants in fields to benefit crops, and captured survivors of battles to enslave them. Appeals to tradition are uncompelling.