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Is this definitely true? The water company we have came and tested and they said the lead level was too low to worry about.

iamtedd 1y ago
Was it measurable and below a certain threshold, or was it undetectable, but they legally can't say there's zero lead content?
- robertlagrant 1y ago
  Good question - I can't remember. I've just looked up the UK guidance[0] on this, and it seems to talk more about reduction than removal. What do you think? [0] https://www.dwi.gov.uk/lead-in-drinking-water https://www.dwi.gov.uk/lead-in-drinking-water
bluGill 1y ago
There is a lot of debate. There is lead everywhere in the world so zero lead exposure is impossible. The real question is how low you can practically get, and nobody agrees here. Many want as low as possible and then lower yet; others have defined some really timy anount as good enough.
cyanydeez 1y ago
Zero lead is now the goal for health. The EPA keeps regulatory levels for the sake of conservatives who refuse yo address the problem
- hedora 1y ago
  Go to Home Depot, and check out the plumbing section. The stuff marked “hot water line” “lead safe” is all leaded. Now, try to find equivalent lines (same threads, diameters, etc) that are not marked for hot water heater use. They don’t stock them, but they stock fixtures that require them. One thing that puzzles me: ICE has been targeting Home Depot parking lots out here in California, but Home Depot is a big supporter of Trump. I’d expect them to go after bluer Lowes lots. Maybe Home Depot has agreed not to sue for trespassing or something? If so, that sounds like a breach of fiduciary duties to me.
  - john01dav 1y ago
    What you're saying about leaded fixtures doesn't make sense to me. You say that lead safe fixtures are leaded, but this seems to mean that lead isn't present. Also, what does this have to do with water heater use or fixtures?
    - quickthrowman 1y ago
      > Also, what does this have to do with water heater use or fixtures? It doesn’t particularly matter if small amounts of lead are used in hot water lines since you don’t (or shouldn’t) drink water from the hot water heater. Ideally your drinking water comes from a faucet that has separate hot/cold taps, if it doesn’t, then you should turn the faucet all the way to ‘cold’ when you’re filling a glass with water to drink.
      - danielscrubs 1y ago
        Never been to Asia? Plenty of people prefer their water warm.
    - lazide 1y ago
      ‘Lead free’ brass still has lead in it. [https://www.thermofisher.com/blog/metals/are-you-manufacturing-lead-free-brass-in-accordance-with-regulations/ https://www.thermofisher.com/blog/metals/are-you-manufacturi...] Just less lead.
  - cyanydeez 1y ago
    yo, what did you think I meant by conservatives who dont want to change anything.
  - mindslight 1y ago
    Are you talking about low-lead brass? Yes, it still has some lead. I don't think the "hot water" labeling is relevant? Unless some states allow non-low-lead-brass in hot water lines? Alternatives are skipping the brass fittings/nipples and using copper, stainless, or the various plastics. I'm guessing you're seeing the stuff about water heaters because you shouldn't connect copper directly to water heaters (they have steel tanks which with copper creates a battery and corrodes the connection quickly). And HD doesn't really stock stainless as far as I've seen, though you can certainly get it online. Not sure how it fits into plumbing code for potable water though. re: the parking lots, in my experience HD is more popular with tradespeople. the goal of the raids isn't really immigration reform, but rather general fear - including for legal immigrants just trying to go about their business.

iamtedd 1y ago

Was it measurable and below a certain threshold, or was it undetectable, but they legally can't say there's zero lead content?

robertlagrant 1y ago
Good question - I can't remember. I've just looked up the UK guidance[0] on this, and it seems to talk more about reduction than removal. What do you think? [0] https://www.dwi.gov.uk/lead-in-drinking-water https://www.dwi.gov.uk/lead-in-drinking-water

bluGill 1y ago

There is a lot of debate. There is lead everywhere in the world so zero lead exposure is impossible. The real question is how low you can practically get, and nobody agrees here. Many want as low as possible and then lower yet; others have defined some really timy anount as good enough.

cyanydeez 1y ago

Zero lead is now the goal for health. The EPA keeps regulatory levels for the sake of conservatives who refuse yo address the problem

hedora 1y ago
Go to Home Depot, and check out the plumbing section. The stuff marked “hot water line” “lead safe” is all leaded. Now, try to find equivalent lines (same threads, diameters, etc) that are not marked for hot water heater use. They don’t stock them, but they stock fixtures that require them. One thing that puzzles me: ICE has been targeting Home Depot parking lots out here in California, but Home Depot is a big supporter of Trump. I’d expect them to go after bluer Lowes lots. Maybe Home Depot has agreed not to sue for trespassing or something? If so, that sounds like a breach of fiduciary duties to me.
- john01dav 1y ago
  What you're saying about leaded fixtures doesn't make sense to me. You say that lead safe fixtures are leaded, but this seems to mean that lead isn't present. Also, what does this have to do with water heater use or fixtures?
  - quickthrowman 1y ago
    > Also, what does this have to do with water heater use or fixtures? It doesn’t particularly matter if small amounts of lead are used in hot water lines since you don’t (or shouldn’t) drink water from the hot water heater. Ideally your drinking water comes from a faucet that has separate hot/cold taps, if it doesn’t, then you should turn the faucet all the way to ‘cold’ when you’re filling a glass with water to drink.
    - danielscrubs 1y ago
      Never been to Asia? Plenty of people prefer their water warm.
  - lazide 1y ago
    ‘Lead free’ brass still has lead in it. [https://www.thermofisher.com/blog/metals/are-you-manufacturing-lead-free-brass-in-accordance-with-regulations/ https://www.thermofisher.com/blog/metals/are-you-manufacturi...] Just less lead.
- cyanydeez 1y ago
  yo, what did you think I meant by conservatives who dont want to change anything.
- mindslight 1y ago
  Are you talking about low-lead brass? Yes, it still has some lead. I don't think the "hot water" labeling is relevant? Unless some states allow non-low-lead-brass in hot water lines? Alternatives are skipping the brass fittings/nipples and using copper, stainless, or the various plastics. I'm guessing you're seeing the stuff about water heaters because you shouldn't connect copper directly to water heaters (they have steel tanks which with copper creates a battery and corrodes the connection quickly). And HD doesn't really stock stainless as far as I've seen, though you can certainly get it online. Not sure how it fits into plumbing code for potable water though. re: the parking lots, in my experience HD is more popular with tradespeople. the goal of the raids isn't really immigration reform, but rather general fear - including for legal immigrants just trying to go about their business.