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This gives a little "old man yells at cloud" vibes. Like, I get that some people are more misanthropic than others, but I personally have forgotten about appoin

by dvt 1y ago

This gives a little "old man yells at cloud" vibes. Like, I get that some people are more misanthropic than others, but I personally have forgotten about appointments so text reminders were nice, I'm in plenty of Discord servers, getting help can be nice sometimes, etc. Even if you're not religious or spiritual (which I would bet the author isn't), at the very least the natural process of evolution seems to value the idea of community and togetherness, so shunning it seems a bit shortsighted.

ryandrake 1y ago
I don't think this rant is about misanthropy. It's about consent and about the exhaustion of having to defend your own attention everywhere you go and no matter what you do. Companies need to stop trying to get us to engage with them.
- dvt 1y ago
  It absolutely is about misanthropy. You can't convince me that these have anything to do with your attention, it's mostly just being a dick to people that work in the service industry: > Do you need help with self-checkout? No, I want to be left alone. > Do you want to leave a tip? No, I want to be left alone. > Do you want to round-up? No, I want to be left alone. > Do you want to leave a review? No, I want to be left alone. It's extremely obvious the guy has never worked as a barista, bartender, waiter, or salesperson, because I've dealt with people like this in real life and it's as exhausting as his post.
  - ryandrake 1y ago
    OK so you're ignoring the rest of the page and zeroing in on one or two lines, trying to make this specifically about tipping and service workers. This is not a personal rant against baristas and bartenders. It's a general plea to companies to stop trying to grab our attention and get us to do things. What does "turn on notifications" have to do with service workers? What does "give us your phone number to get a coupon" have to do with service workers? What does "subscribe to our newsletter" have to do with service workers? What does "sign up for our credit card" have to do with service workers? It just sounds like you have an axe to grind and picked this article to do it.
    - dvt 1y ago
      > just sounds like you have an axe to grind An axe to grind? I'm just commenting on the article, my guy. It seemed a bit misanthropic and gave my reasoning. Literally all of those things are occasionally useful to people and are commonly known as "customer service." Have you seriously never used a coupon you got via text? Have you never signed up for a credit card deal? I mean, some stuff I get (time share deals or annoying notifications or whatever), but agreeing to a terms of service has got you all up in arms? Really?

by dvt 1y ago

ryandrake 1y ago

I don't think this rant is about misanthropy. It's about consent and about the exhaustion of having to defend your own attention everywhere you go and no matter what you do. Companies need to stop trying to get us to engage with them.

dvt 1y ago
It absolutely is about misanthropy. You can't convince me that these have anything to do with your attention, it's mostly just being a dick to people that work in the service industry: > Do you need help with self-checkout? No, I want to be left alone. > Do you want to leave a tip? No, I want to be left alone. > Do you want to round-up? No, I want to be left alone. > Do you want to leave a review? No, I want to be left alone. It's extremely obvious the guy has never worked as a barista, bartender, waiter, or salesperson, because I've dealt with people like this in real life and it's as exhausting as his post.
- ryandrake 1y ago
  OK so you're ignoring the rest of the page and zeroing in on one or two lines, trying to make this specifically about tipping and service workers. This is not a personal rant against baristas and bartenders. It's a general plea to companies to stop trying to grab our attention and get us to do things. What does "turn on notifications" have to do with service workers? What does "give us your phone number to get a coupon" have to do with service workers? What does "subscribe to our newsletter" have to do with service workers? What does "sign up for our credit card" have to do with service workers? It just sounds like you have an axe to grind and picked this article to do it.
  - dvt 1y ago
    > just sounds like you have an axe to grind An axe to grind? I'm just commenting on the article, my guy. It seemed a bit misanthropic and gave my reasoning. Literally all of those things are occasionally useful to people and are commonly known as "customer service." Have you seriously never used a coupon you got via text? Have you never signed up for a credit card deal? I mean, some stuff I get (time share deals or annoying notifications or whatever), but agreeing to a terms of service has got you all up in arms? Really?