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I mean, it’s a legitimate concern. Google is bleeding so hard right now from Gen Z and especially Gen Alpha deciding to use ChatGPT first and foremost when aski
by judge2020 1y ago
I mean, it’s a legitimate concern. Google is bleeding so hard right now from Gen Z and especially Gen Alpha deciding to use ChatGPT first and foremost when asking questions that Google would’ve answered previously. Whether or not that means they should keep Chrome as a product is up for debate.
- stackskipton 1y agoUnder good Monopoly law, you would remedy the situation that got them to this point, not worry about their future. Chrome + Deals got to them to this point so that's what you unwind. If it causes Google to get weakened and AI finishes them off, that's just creative destruction at work and oh well.
- xnx 1y agoThe ease with which a total newcomer was able to steal share from Google is real-world evidence that there wasn't really a monopoly and that Google competitors (Bing, etc.) just sucked and didn't want to spend the money to be better.
- stackskipton 1y agoWell, courts disagree with your assessment and so do I. Yes, AI is a threat to Google. How much a threat remains to be seen. From normies I know, most of them are just using Gemini or whatever is on Google front page. They are not starting most of their searches on OpenAI or other ones.
- arccy 1y agoChatGPT feels like it's in a lot of day to day conversations these days, you even hear people mention it on the street in non tech cities
- attendant3446 1y agoAnother thing I've noticed is that many people refer to everything as 'ChatGPT', regardless of which 'AI' they're using.
- darkwater 1y agoChatGPT has for sure the "first mover" strength for normies (you can hear it mentioned in TV, radio and in the street, but also lot of people just talk about "AI". So, IMO there is still space to be used as "the AI" rather then specifically ChatGPT. It might also just be always referred to "ChatGPT" when talking about another provider, just like people saying "Kleenex" when referring to tissues.
- kevin_thibedeau 1y agoCourts also decided you couldn't bundle a web browser and then turned a blind eye when it's done on a different platform with draconian restrictions against even installing an alternate browser.
- otterley 1y agoThey didn't "turn[] a blind eye" as they weren't asked the question again. There was no legal precedent established by the Microsoft case that required all future operating systems to have a replaceable browser engine. Also, the factual situations were quite different: Microsoft had a de facto monopoly on PC OSes in the late 1990s, while Apple never had a monopoly on mobile devices.
- flappyeagle 1y agoYou sound old. No one I know under the age of 30 uses Google. It’s all ChatGPT
- makeitdouble 1y agoYou make it sound like some AI company snapped 5% of global search traffic from Google across all devices. What's the actual number ?
- 1121redblackgo 1y agoI'd hazard a guess much higher than 5%
- fourthark 1y agoI asked Grok and Gemini and they both said there have been reports that Google search has dropped below 90% for the first time, so it’s significant but it’s like a 1-2% drop.
- 8note 1y agoisnt the monopoly on ads, not search?
- troyvit 1y agoThey stole share from Google because search is becoming obsolete, not because a new search engine came to town. It's like saying 5G stole market share from AOL's dial-up business. Search still has a use, and Google still takes > 90% of all search, so it's still a monopoly, and I'll add that Google is trying to leverage that monopoly to expand Gemini.
- tick_tock_tick 1y ago> Under good Monopoly law, you would remedy the situation that got them to this point, not worry about their future. I mean but it appears to be being remedy'd by itself why would the court proscribe something for a problem that no longer exists?
- stackskipton 1y agoBecause it happened. If I was stealing cable but then all shows I wanted to watch switched to streaming, should I be let off the hook because situation remedy'd itself? I'd imagine most people would say no, the fact you can no longer do the crime in the future does not change the fact you did the crime in the past.
- jonas21 1y agoThis is a civil case. The point is to remedy the situation, not to punish a crime.
- foolswisdom 1y agoWe don't know at all that AI will actually make Google search moot.
- brainwad 1y agoChrome had nothing to do with the case, though; the prosecutors were grasping at straws. The obvious remedy is to ban Google from bidding for placement, which is what happened.
- Barrin92 1y ago>Google is bleeding so hard right now from Gen Z and especially Gen Alpha deciding to use ChatGPT Is this an evidence based claim? From the Q2 2025 numbers Google saw double digit revenue growth YoY for search. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jul/23/google-expected-to-report-earnings?utm_source=chatgpt.com https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jul/23/google-expec...
- richrichardsson 1y agoI'm Gen X and recently been using ChatGPT a hell of a lot more than Google, especially for queries similar to sibling comment. Instead of trying to word my query optimally for search, I just write what I'm trying to achieve in natural language and I get an answer, instead of having to scan a few results to know if they're likely candidates. Even with the made up shit on occasion this is a win.
- kevin_thibedeau 1y agoIt's the only viable option for surfacing knowledge that is nearly gone from the dead internet.
- rockskon 1y agoGoogle intentionally crippling search by routinely ignoring search terms or unnecessarily generalizing them is coming to bite them in the ass.
- dabockster 1y agoOr by people like me with LM Studio, a lightweight GGUF from Hugging Face, and maybe some kind of vector database MCP tool.