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I'm not cheerleading, just explaining the differences as you asked. MAGA gets plenty of coverage here, while the WEF really doesn't, so I did lean a little mor

by _mlbt 1y ago

I'm not cheerleading, just explaining the differences as you asked. MAGA gets plenty of coverage here, while the WEF really doesn't, so I did lean a little more into explaining the authoritarian nature of leftist globalism.

mindslight 1y ago
Those are the exact same talking points I hear from people supporting Trump as some kind of supposed alternative. Our main political dynamic is that each professional team plays up how bad the other professional team is to drive support to themselves - so sensational criticism of one single professional team boils down to support for the other professional team. And as I said I thought we were criticizing authoritarianism in general. I wasn't asking you the difference between the two flavors in terms of their marketing, but asking why you would choose to focus on their differences rather than their commonalities, especially in the context of caring about individual liberty.
- _mlbt 1y ago
  Advocating that we should eat bugs and not own anything is a pretty serious infringement of personal liberty.
  - mindslight 1y ago
    I don't see how advocating those things is itself an infringement of personal liberty. Are you coming from the all-too-common place of equating speech with violence? You've also missed my main point three times now while actually leaning into the exact dynamic I've described, and so I'm having a hard time interpreting your comments as earnestly condemning authoritarianism.
    - _mlbt 1y ago
      Sorry, I worded that poorly. Advocating is not the infringement, implementation of what they advocate for would be a major infringement. I think we’re just continuing to talk past each other though. I’ve explained how WEF’s flavor of authoritarianism differs from MAGA’s to the best of my ability, but I understand if my explanations are insufficient.
      - mindslight 1y ago
        I never asked how the flavors are different. The flavors are obviously different. And on this, you haven't made any points that I wasn't already aware of. What I have been asking you is why you are choosing to emphasize the differences between the flavors, rather than focusing on their overall commonalities. You came into this thread, ostensibly about the right-flavored authoritarianism currently on the rise in the West, with a whatabout left-flavored authoritarianism. Your subsequent comments have been narrow critiques of left-flavored authoritarianism, indistinguishable from support/marketing of right-flavored authoritarianism. In terms of actually criticizing authoritarianism in general, you can see how that pattern might come off as a bit disingenuous, right?

by _mlbt 1y ago

mindslight 1y ago

Those are the exact same talking points I hear from people supporting Trump as some kind of supposed alternative. Our main political dynamic is that each professional team plays up how bad the other professional team is to drive support to themselves - so sensational criticism of one single professional team boils down to support for the other professional team. And as I said I thought we were criticizing authoritarianism in general. I wasn't asking you the difference between the two flavors in terms of their marketing, but asking why you would choose to focus on their differences rather than their commonalities, especially in the context of caring about individual liberty.

_mlbt 1y ago
Advocating that we should eat bugs and not own anything is a pretty serious infringement of personal liberty.
- mindslight 1y ago
  I don't see how advocating those things is itself an infringement of personal liberty. Are you coming from the all-too-common place of equating speech with violence? You've also missed my main point three times now while actually leaning into the exact dynamic I've described, and so I'm having a hard time interpreting your comments as earnestly condemning authoritarianism.
  - _mlbt 1y ago
    Sorry, I worded that poorly. Advocating is not the infringement, implementation of what they advocate for would be a major infringement. I think we’re just continuing to talk past each other though. I’ve explained how WEF’s flavor of authoritarianism differs from MAGA’s to the best of my ability, but I understand if my explanations are insufficient.
    - mindslight 1y ago
      I never asked how the flavors are different. The flavors are obviously different. And on this, you haven't made any points that I wasn't already aware of. What I have been asking you is why you are choosing to emphasize the differences between the flavors, rather than focusing on their overall commonalities. You came into this thread, ostensibly about the right-flavored authoritarianism currently on the rise in the West, with a whatabout left-flavored authoritarianism. Your subsequent comments have been narrow critiques of left-flavored authoritarianism, indistinguishable from support/marketing of right-flavored authoritarianism. In terms of actually criticizing authoritarianism in general, you can see how that pattern might come off as a bit disingenuous, right?