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> didn't want to eat some pizza with some kind of fake cheese and unrecognizable veggies. What I want to know is what ghastly pizza establishment serves fake c
by MisterTea 1y ago
> didn't want to eat some pizza with some kind of fake cheese and unrecognizable veggies.
What I want to know is what ghastly pizza establishment serves fake cheese and what are mystery veggies?
- duxup 1y agoIt was from an actually good pizza place that had some wild choices for pizzas. Inexplicably they didn't order any of the "regular" pizzas from there.
- zahlman 1y ago> what ghastly pizza establishment serves fake cheese Most of them, I imagine, in order to accommodate vegan customers. Some advertise it louder than others. > what are mystery veggies? There's quite a variety out there. I've seen broccoli, sundried tomato, artichoke, spinach....
- bondarchuk 1y agoThose are very normal weggebobbles for anyone outside the US. Big no-no to vegan cheese though.
- stevage 1y agoEh, I find vegan cheese very variable. I never seek it out but experience it relatively often. Sometimes it's tasty and chewy. Sometimes it's a bland monstrosity. I don't know why.
- rkomorn 1y agoVegan feta has the best success rate for me. Unfortunately, feta has limited applications. (I'm not vegan but I like to try vegan products anyway.)
- kulahan 1y agoIf you haven't make shakshuka yet, it's worth a shot. It's one of my favorite places to use lots and lots of feta. It's not normally vegan since it's topped with an egg, but that's easy enough to remove and forget. Eat it with toasted pita.
- rkomorn 1y agoCome on, it's 2025, no true HN user hasn't tried to make shakshuka by now. :D
- iamtedd 1y agoI don't even know how to spell shakshuka.
- rkomorn 1y agoYou don't have to! You can just say it's imported from a language that doesn't use the Latin alphabet, so there's no canonically correct way to spell it. It's probably a lie but it doesn't sound like one!
- dotancohen 1y agoThough Arabic has quite a few letters you won't find in the Latin alphabet, all the letters in the word shakshukah map perfectly to Latin letters. But put an H on the end, and quarter-pronounce it.
- rkomorn 1y agoThe spelling still had to be romanized. The Wikipedia page has three different spellings for it, though none match yours. I stand by my point.
- stevage 1y ago> feta has limited applications. Politely beg to differ.
- shermantanktop 1y agoAre they not normal inside the US?
- evilduck 1y agoThey're normal vegetables, but not normal pizza toppings. Just look at the menu offerings of any big US chain pizza place, deviating from that without warning is going to cause disappointment.
- 0xffff2 1y agoI'm from California, can't speak to the rest of the US... To me all except broccoli are perfectly normal pizza toppings. Not toppings I would expect to see on a Dominos pizza, but definitely to be expected on a "veggie" pizza from any independent pizza place.
- shermantanktop 1y ago> any big US chain pizza place I guess that counts as "normal," but that's fast food, where picky children's tastes rule. Predictability and therefore high-volume turnover of ingredients is paramount.
- Tallain 1y agoI don't see how any of these could be considered "mystery" veggies in most contexts, let alone on pizza.
- schuyler2d 1y agoI'm pretty sure they weren't unrecognizable or mystery and it's just being used as a pejorative for food they didn't like
- bigstrat2003 1y agoVegan cheese is an abomination. Even if one is vegan they shouldn't eat that crap, just eat something else instead. You can make much better vegan food if you focus on trying to make vegetables good versus torturing them into a facsimile of animal products.
- girvo 1y agoEh, there’s some that are perfectly meh and are useful for texture reasons. I don’t really bother with them, but “abomination” is quite amusing me.
- aziaziazi 1y agoUS cheese-in-tube is an abomination (I’m French ;-) ) and my Italian neighbor thinks the same about pinanle-fat-dough pizzas. As for every product type there’s good and bad. I love this one[0], it’s made by a bunch of artisan chiefs near my city. Ingredients: soy, cajun nuts, ferments. Probable process: cook, smash, add ferment, wait. Beside tradition offense there’s no reasons to restrain ourselves torturing-with-ferments lipid products that didn’t came out from udders. Fermented products are delicious and cooking has always co-evolved with technology, product availability and customs, why should someone restrain from experimenting? I share the ultra processed disdain but to be honest there’s as much UPF in "fascimile" that some of their counterpart. That non-vegan-milk cheese has 16 ingredients in it[1]. 0 https://www.vegetalfood.fr/affines/3868-albert-bio-100-gr-jay-joy-3760253220255.html https://www.vegetalfood.fr/affines/3868-albert-bio-100-gr-ja... 1 https://www.amazon.fr/cfuda-Easy-Cheese-American/dp/B000S5PHJ6/ https://www.amazon.fr/cfuda-Easy-Cheese-American/dp/B000S5PH...
- jjani 1y agoThe huge majority of cheese consumed in the US isn't any better than vegan cheese. And yes, the US does have good cheese! It's just a tiny sliver of all cheese consumed.
- vintermann 1y agoI thought I liked vegan pizzas, having only tasted the restaurant varieties which either don't have cheese or have some sort of savoury dressing instead. Then I tried a vegan frozen pizza, and I found out what people hate about them. Some gray slimy substance which apparently someone, somewhere, thought was similar to melted cheese.
- raxxorraxor 1y agoI think the larger reason is that fake cheese is cheaper. In parts of Europe restaurants are allowed to sell it as cheese. That isn't true for frozen supermarket pizza, where regulations force to either declare it as fake cheese or use real one. Most restaurants use fake cheese out of price concerns.
- MarkSweep 1y agoWhole Foods is an offender here. They were selling a slice of fresh vegan pizza, which I assumed just had vegetables on it. Instead it had this obscene goopy “vegan cheese” that had more in common with mochi than cheese. (Yes, you can find pizzas with mochi on it in Japan, but they don’t call it cheese!)
- mr_toad 1y agoI don’t get the trend of vegan restaurants etc selling fake meat products. If you want vegan food you’re probably better off going to an Indian restaurant where they actually know how to cook without meat.
- bregma 1y agoCurry 5p Meat Curry 7p Named Meat Curry 15p