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Locally run video models that are just as good as today’s closed models are going to be the watershed moment The companies doing foundational video models have

Locally run video models that are just as good as today’s closed models are going to be the watershed moment The companies doing foundational video models have stakeholders that don’t want to be associated with what people really want to generate But they are pushing the space forward and the uncensored and unrestricted video model is coming

giancarlostoro 1y ago
Nobody wants to make a commercial NSFW model that then suffers a jailbreak... for what is the most illegal NSFW content.
- yieldcrv 1y ago
  Thats the thing, what’s “illegal” will challenge our whole society when it comes do dynamically generated real interactive avatars that are new humans When it comes to sexually explicit content in general with adults, all of our laws rely on the human actor existing FOSTA and SESTA is related to user generated content of humans, for example. They rely on making sure an actual human isnt being exploited and burdening everyone with that enforcement. When everyone can just say “thats AI” nobody’s going to care and platforms will be willing to take that risk of it being true again - or a new hit platform will. That kind of content currently Doesnt exist in large quantities yet, until a video model ungimped can generate it. Concerns about trafficking only rely on actual humans not entirely new avatars regarding children there are more restrictions that may already cover this, there is a large market for just adult looking characters though and worries about underage can be tackled independently. or be found entirely futile. not my problem, focus on what you can control. this is whats coming though. people already dont mind parasocial relationships with generative AI and already pay for that, just add nudity
- simianwords 1y ago
  Why is this illegal btw? I mean whats stopping an AI company from releasing a proper NSFW model? I hope it doesn't happen but I want to know what prevents them from doing it now.
  - baq 1y ago
    in some jurisdictions generating a swastika or a hammer and sickle is illegal. that said, I'm sure you can imagine that the really illegal, truly, positively sickening and immoral stuff is children-adjacent and you can be 100% sure there are sociopaths doing training runs for the broken people who'll buy the weights.
    - simianwords 1y ago
      Is it illegal to use mspaint to generate similar vile things?
      - tick_tock_tick 1y ago
        Most of Europe doesn't really have free speech, frankly most of the world doesn't. Privileges like making mspaint drawings of nearly whatever you want is pretty uniquely American.
      - Majromax 1y ago
        Not in the United States, but it is illegal in some jurisdictions. Additionally, the entire "payment processors leaning on Steam" thing shows that it might be very difficult to monetize a model that's known for generating extremely controversial content. Without monetization, it would be hard for any company to support the training (and potential release) of an unshackled enterprise-grade model.
- tick_tock_tick 1y ago
  It's going to be really weird when huge swaths of the internet are illegal to visit outside the USA because you keep running into that kind of AI generate "content".
lynx97 1y ago
Maybe. The question is, will legislation be fast enough? Maybe, if people keep going for politician porn: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/aug/28/outrage-in-italy-over-pornographic-website-with-doctored-images-of-prominent-women-giorgia-meloni https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/aug/28/outrage-in-ita...
- kaashif 1y ago
  Well considering it has been possible to produce similar doctored images for decades at this point, I think we can conclude legislation has not been fast enough. That article is nothing to do with AI, really.
  - yieldcrv 1y ago
    and people focus way too much much on superimposed images instead of completely new digital avatars, which is what’s already taking off now
xenobeb 1y ago
The problem is the video models are only impressive in news stories about the video models. When you actually try to use them you can see how the marketing is playing to people's imagination because they are such a massive disappointment.
- xnx 1y ago
  Not my experience. Have you used Veo 3?

giancarlostoro 1y ago

Nobody wants to make a commercial NSFW model that then suffers a jailbreak... for what is the most illegal NSFW content.

yieldcrv 1y ago
Thats the thing, what’s “illegal” will challenge our whole society when it comes do dynamically generated real interactive avatars that are new humans When it comes to sexually explicit content in general with adults, all of our laws rely on the human actor existing FOSTA and SESTA is related to user generated content of humans, for example. They rely on making sure an actual human isnt being exploited and burdening everyone with that enforcement. When everyone can just say “thats AI” nobody’s going to care and platforms will be willing to take that risk of it being true again - or a new hit platform will. That kind of content currently Doesnt exist in large quantities yet, until a video model ungimped can generate it. Concerns about trafficking only rely on actual humans not entirely new avatars regarding children there are more restrictions that may already cover this, there is a large market for just adult looking characters though and worries about underage can be tackled independently. or be found entirely futile. not my problem, focus on what you can control. this is whats coming though. people already dont mind parasocial relationships with generative AI and already pay for that, just add nudity
simianwords 1y ago
Why is this illegal btw? I mean whats stopping an AI company from releasing a proper NSFW model? I hope it doesn't happen but I want to know what prevents them from doing it now.
- baq 1y ago
  in some jurisdictions generating a swastika or a hammer and sickle is illegal. that said, I'm sure you can imagine that the really illegal, truly, positively sickening and immoral stuff is children-adjacent and you can be 100% sure there are sociopaths doing training runs for the broken people who'll buy the weights.
  - simianwords 1y ago
    Is it illegal to use mspaint to generate similar vile things?
    - tick_tock_tick 1y ago
      Most of Europe doesn't really have free speech, frankly most of the world doesn't. Privileges like making mspaint drawings of nearly whatever you want is pretty uniquely American.
    - Majromax 1y ago
      Not in the United States, but it is illegal in some jurisdictions. Additionally, the entire "payment processors leaning on Steam" thing shows that it might be very difficult to monetize a model that's known for generating extremely controversial content. Without monetization, it would be hard for any company to support the training (and potential release) of an unshackled enterprise-grade model.
tick_tock_tick 1y ago
It's going to be really weird when huge swaths of the internet are illegal to visit outside the USA because you keep running into that kind of AI generate "content".

lynx97 1y ago

Maybe. The question is, will legislation be fast enough? Maybe, if people keep going for politician porn: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/aug/28/outrage-in-italy-over-pornographic-website-with-doctored-images-of-prominent-women-giorgia-meloni https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/aug/28/outrage-in-ita...

kaashif 1y ago
Well considering it has been possible to produce similar doctored images for decades at this point, I think we can conclude legislation has not been fast enough. That article is nothing to do with AI, really.
- yieldcrv 1y ago
  and people focus way too much much on superimposed images instead of completely new digital avatars, which is what’s already taking off now

xenobeb 1y ago

The problem is the video models are only impressive in news stories about the video models. When you actually try to use them you can see how the marketing is playing to people's imagination because they are such a massive disappointment.

xnx 1y ago
Not my experience. Have you used Veo 3?