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Belgium to Recognise Palestinian State

28 points by a_paddy 1y ago

a_paddy 1y ago
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- duxup 1y ago
  Pretty much any news that casts Israel in a non positive light, even distantly, is flagged on HN.
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- elthran 1y ago
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Propelloni 1y ago
I do not agree with Israel's warmongering politics and leadership, but recognising Palestine as a state is incoherent at best and a mistake at worst. What actually would Belgium recognise as a state here? How will it end the "humanitarian tragedy"?
- gattilorenz 1y ago
  It’s a way to put political pressure on Israel, not a way to directly end the tragedy. Plus, you can recognise a state without recognizing Hamas as its legitimate government
  - dragonwriter 1y ago
    > Plus, you can recognize a state without recognizing Hamas as its legitimate government Neither the chief of state nor the head of government of the State of Palestine are members of Hamas, so, yeah, people recognizing the State of Palestine (a majority of UN members, the Arab League—of which the State of Palestine is a member state—etc.) generally do not recognize Hamas as its government.
    - spwa4 1y ago
      No they are members of the "PA", formally the PLO who you may remember from such hits as "black september", "bombing the olympics", they have an offshoot killing hundreds of thousands of people in Syria. They recently announced in Arabic that they will keep paying pensions to people who kill Jews, for any reason. If those people died killing Jews, their family members. Oh and in English they denied it [1]. Obviously western press is reporting only ONE of those statements [2]. Remember them? You know, they are generally described as the Palestinian faction who wants peace. Oh, and they're billionnaires (well, the leaders are), which they weren't before getting their government positions. [1] for example: https://jewishinsider.com/2025/02/pas-abbas-payments-to-terrorists-will-continue-even-if-we-have-one-cent-left/ https://jewishinsider.com/2025/02/pas-abbas-payments-to-terr... [2] Just look at Google news: https://www.google.com/search?q=We+Will+Not+Stop+The+Payments+To+The+Prisoners+And+The+Martyrs%27+Families&client=firefox-b-d https://www.google.com/search?q=We+Will+Not+Stop+The+Payment... (note where the Reuters and Aljazeera links go)
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28 points by a_paddy 1y ago

a_paddy 1y ago

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duxup 1y ago
Pretty much any news that casts Israel in a non positive light, even distantly, is flagged on HN.
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elthran 1y ago
"Off-Topic: Most stories about politics, or crime, or sports, or celebrities, unless they're evidence of some interesting new phenomenon. Videos of pratfalls or disasters, or cute animal pictures. If they'd cover it on TV news, it's probably off-topic."

Propelloni 1y ago

I do not agree with Israel's warmongering politics and leadership, but recognising Palestine as a state is incoherent at best and a mistake at worst. What actually would Belgium recognise as a state here? How will it end the "humanitarian tragedy"?

gattilorenz 1y ago
It’s a way to put political pressure on Israel, not a way to directly end the tragedy. Plus, you can recognise a state without recognizing Hamas as its legitimate government
- dragonwriter 1y ago
  > Plus, you can recognize a state without recognizing Hamas as its legitimate government Neither the chief of state nor the head of government of the State of Palestine are members of Hamas, so, yeah, people recognizing the State of Palestine (a majority of UN members, the Arab League—of which the State of Palestine is a member state—etc.) generally do not recognize Hamas as its government.
  - spwa4 1y ago
    No they are members of the "PA", formally the PLO who you may remember from such hits as "black september", "bombing the olympics", they have an offshoot killing hundreds of thousands of people in Syria. They recently announced in Arabic that they will keep paying pensions to people who kill Jews, for any reason. If those people died killing Jews, their family members. Oh and in English they denied it [1]. Obviously western press is reporting only ONE of those statements [2]. Remember them? You know, they are generally described as the Palestinian faction who wants peace. Oh, and they're billionnaires (well, the leaders are), which they weren't before getting their government positions. [1] for example: https://jewishinsider.com/2025/02/pas-abbas-payments-to-terrorists-will-continue-even-if-we-have-one-cent-left/ https://jewishinsider.com/2025/02/pas-abbas-payments-to-terr... [2] Just look at Google news: https://www.google.com/search?q=We+Will+Not+Stop+The+Payments+To+The+Prisoners+And+The+Martyrs%27+Families&client=firefox-b-d https://www.google.com/search?q=We+Will+Not+Stop+The+Payment... (note where the Reuters and Aljazeera links go)
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