I define them as winners in a civil war that are far more open to personal liberty and democracy than the predecessor. Anyway, I reject your premise. To win th

I define them as winners in a civil war that are far more open to personal liberty and democracy than the predecessor. Anyway, I reject your premise. To win that war they had to have wide support from the general population of Libya - there were no foreign troops on the ground, it was Libyans fighting Libyans.