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How are you an old curmudgeon at 30

by kingkawn 1y ago

neutronicus 1y ago
Hasn't had kids to push the Reset button, probably.
- zwnow 1y ago
  I am fully against forcing kids into this world with the way things are currently going. If I see a future I'd want to live in I'll think about kids.
  - juanani 1y ago
    [dead]
  - neutronicus 1y ago
    Fair perspective. Honestly, for me the joy of life was front-loaded. Childhood was great, lot of stress and alienation since, with joy taken where I can find it but not a typical condition. My almost-six-year-old seems to be loving childhood as well, so I hope that even if things go really pear-shaped for civilization in the next couple decades he'll regard having lived as a net win.
zwnow 1y ago
Long time depression, father dead at 15, half of family dead since, possibly adhd, moved places like 8 times, poor (thankfully no debt), balding, never had a relationship, constant anger due to the stupidity of other people (when reading comments on news articles as an example), and and and...
- coldpie 1y ago
  > constant anger due to the stupidity of other people (when reading comments on news articles as an example) Holy cow dude, cut this one right the fuck out. Absolutely eliminate that portion of your day. Cold turkey straight to zero. Right now. Reading Internet comments that make you angry is like choosing to stick your face in the exhaust of a diesel truck. There's no reason to do it. Just don't.
  - zwnow 1y ago
    I get that. For lots of articles there are people giving additional context which i find highly interesting. As a German, nowadays I just see a lot of hate towards immigrants or women, which deeply saddens me.
    - coldpie 1y ago
      It's your life, but I promise you no amount of "highly interesting" is worth "constant anger." If you stop reading that garbage for a couple weeks, I promise you will wonder why on Earth you were ever wasting your time on it.
- kingkawn 1y ago
  Sounds like you need some you time
  - zwnow 1y ago
    I got 30 years of me time
    - kingkawn 1y ago
      Time to make things better rather than catalogue how bad they are.
- carlosjobim 1y ago
  I've met several people in my life that are like you, at least from what it sounds like in the description you give. Constantly anger and bitter. Probably for good reason, at least initially. And these people were smart people, hard working, honest. But here's the secret: If you behave like this, then people will only interact with you when they want something from you, leading to an even more bitterness and unfriendly demeanor, leading to even worse interactions with other people. Instead fake being nice and friendly and people will be nice and friendly with you and after what might feel like forever you will become genuinely nice and friendly. Giving you the possibility to enjoy better people and the better side of people.
  - zwnow 1y ago
    This advice basically is "be fake and people will eventually like you" which is one of the reasons im constantly pissed off about other people. I respect authenticity and I do not need people in my life preferring a version of me that's not authentic. Im content with being alone a lot, its preferable for me to having a lot of acquaintances. I have a good circle of friends which is enough.
    - carlosjobim 1y ago
      The advice is to embrace positivity and you will change yourself fundamentally. Why is it in your mind dishonest to be nice and friendly, and authentic to be angry and maybe cynic? You can get a lot of stuff done and get your way by being friendly, without being in the slightly dishonest or a pushover. Especially when dealing with strangers such as in business or dealing with "authorities". It's the easiest way to get what you need, because people don't want to help somebody who is not friendly. As for getting mad at stupid people on the internet, you're only getting mad because you expect them to be better. Accept internally that most people on the internet are deranged freaks, or just don't amount to much and the tension disappears and you don't have to be mad. Would you be angry at a cow for being simple minded?
    - arkey 1y ago
      You don't need to be fake in order to be nice. Become nice, then you won't have to fake it. One way of becoming nice is to act nice. A nice person is a person who acts nice towards other people. You can act different than how you feel, and that is not being fake, it's being nice. If we all acted how we felt, we'd all be dead already.

How are you an old curmudgeon at 30

neutronicus 1y ago

Hasn't had kids to push the Reset button, probably.

zwnow 1y ago
I am fully against forcing kids into this world with the way things are currently going. If I see a future I'd want to live in I'll think about kids.
- juanani 1y ago
  [dead]
- neutronicus 1y ago
  Fair perspective. Honestly, for me the joy of life was front-loaded. Childhood was great, lot of stress and alienation since, with joy taken where I can find it but not a typical condition. My almost-six-year-old seems to be loving childhood as well, so I hope that even if things go really pear-shaped for civilization in the next couple decades he'll regard having lived as a net win.

zwnow 1y ago

Long time depression, father dead at 15, half of family dead since, possibly adhd, moved places like 8 times, poor (thankfully no debt), balding, never had a relationship, constant anger due to the stupidity of other people (when reading comments on news articles as an example), and and and...

coldpie 1y ago
> constant anger due to the stupidity of other people (when reading comments on news articles as an example) Holy cow dude, cut this one right the fuck out. Absolutely eliminate that portion of your day. Cold turkey straight to zero. Right now. Reading Internet comments that make you angry is like choosing to stick your face in the exhaust of a diesel truck. There's no reason to do it. Just don't.
- zwnow 1y ago
  I get that. For lots of articles there are people giving additional context which i find highly interesting. As a German, nowadays I just see a lot of hate towards immigrants or women, which deeply saddens me.
  - coldpie 1y ago
    It's your life, but I promise you no amount of "highly interesting" is worth "constant anger." If you stop reading that garbage for a couple weeks, I promise you will wonder why on Earth you were ever wasting your time on it.
kingkawn 1y ago
Sounds like you need some you time
- zwnow 1y ago
  I got 30 years of me time
  - kingkawn 1y ago
    Time to make things better rather than catalogue how bad they are.
carlosjobim 1y ago
I've met several people in my life that are like you, at least from what it sounds like in the description you give. Constantly anger and bitter. Probably for good reason, at least initially. And these people were smart people, hard working, honest. But here's the secret: If you behave like this, then people will only interact with you when they want something from you, leading to an even more bitterness and unfriendly demeanor, leading to even worse interactions with other people. Instead fake being nice and friendly and people will be nice and friendly with you and after what might feel like forever you will become genuinely nice and friendly. Giving you the possibility to enjoy better people and the better side of people.
- zwnow 1y ago
  This advice basically is "be fake and people will eventually like you" which is one of the reasons im constantly pissed off about other people. I respect authenticity and I do not need people in my life preferring a version of me that's not authentic. Im content with being alone a lot, its preferable for me to having a lot of acquaintances. I have a good circle of friends which is enough.
  - carlosjobim 1y ago
    The advice is to embrace positivity and you will change yourself fundamentally. Why is it in your mind dishonest to be nice and friendly, and authentic to be angry and maybe cynic? You can get a lot of stuff done and get your way by being friendly, without being in the slightly dishonest or a pushover. Especially when dealing with strangers such as in business or dealing with "authorities". It's the easiest way to get what you need, because people don't want to help somebody who is not friendly. As for getting mad at stupid people on the internet, you're only getting mad because you expect them to be better. Accept internally that most people on the internet are deranged freaks, or just don't amount to much and the tension disappears and you don't have to be mad. Would you be angry at a cow for being simple minded?
  - arkey 1y ago
    You don't need to be fake in order to be nice. Become nice, then you won't have to fake it. One way of becoming nice is to act nice. A nice person is a person who acts nice towards other people. You can act different than how you feel, and that is not being fake, it's being nice. If we all acted how we felt, we'd all be dead already.