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I think these guys have a lot to do with the rise of authoritarianism in the West… https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Economic_Forum https://en.m.wikipedia.

by _mlbt 1y ago

I think these guys have a lot to do with the rise of authoritarianism in the West… https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Economic_Forum https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Economic_Forum Read up on what they advocate for and who they’re influencing and you’ll start to understand what’s going in the world a little better. Chilling stuff for sure.

mindslight 1y ago
Do you have any links investigating how they've been backing Trump? It feels like he's right in line with the overall corporate-authoritarian agenda, but with a kayfabe of a different flavor for the sake of distraction.
- _mlbt 1y ago
  The WEF supports leftist authoritarianism, not the Trump/MAGA flavored variety. I think they are indirectly responsible for his rise, because he is a direct result of the growing backlash against globalist policies.
  - mindslight 1y ago
    The flavors of authoritarianism are just different marketing for the plebs. When people grow weary of one, they flop to the other for a new promise of different easy answers. Why do you think they're somehow disjoint? Even if there is some friendly competition between different factions of elites jockeying for power based on how they market themselves, from an individual/liberty perspective why wouldn't you still consider them more alike than different?
    - _mlbt 1y ago
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      - mindslight 1y ago
        Sorry - I had thought we were criticizing authoritarianism in general, not cheerleading for one of the flavors.
        _mlbt 1y ago
        I'm not cheerleading, just explaining the differences as you asked. MAGA gets plenty of coverage here, while the WEF really doesn't, so I did lean a little more into explaining the authoritarian nature of leftist globalism.
        mindslight 1y ago
        Those are the exact same talking points I hear from people supporting Trump as some kind of supposed alternative. Our main political dynamic is that each professional team plays up how bad the other professional team is to drive support to themselves - so sensational criticism of one single professional team boils down to support for the other professional team. And as I said I thought we were criticizing authoritarianism in general. I wasn't asking you the difference between the two flavors in terms of their marketing, but asking why you would choose to focus on their differences rather than their commonalities, especially in the context of caring about individual liberty.
        _mlbt 1y ago
        Advocating that we should eat bugs and not own anything is a pretty serious infringement of personal liberty.
        mindslight 1y ago
        I don't see how advocating those things is itself an infringement of personal liberty. Are you coming from the all-too-common place of equating speech with violence? You've also missed my main point three times now while actually leaning into the exact dynamic I've described, and so I'm having a hard time interpreting your comments as earnestly condemning authoritarianism.

by _mlbt 1y ago

mindslight 1y ago

Do you have any links investigating how they've been backing Trump? It feels like he's right in line with the overall corporate-authoritarian agenda, but with a kayfabe of a different flavor for the sake of distraction.

_mlbt 1y ago
The WEF supports leftist authoritarianism, not the Trump/MAGA flavored variety. I think they are indirectly responsible for his rise, because he is a direct result of the growing backlash against globalist policies.
- mindslight 1y ago
  The flavors of authoritarianism are just different marketing for the plebs. When people grow weary of one, they flop to the other for a new promise of different easy answers. Why do you think they're somehow disjoint? Even if there is some friendly competition between different factions of elites jockeying for power based on how they market themselves, from an individual/liberty perspective why wouldn't you still consider them more alike than different?
  - _mlbt 1y ago
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    - mindslight 1y ago
      Sorry - I had thought we were criticizing authoritarianism in general, not cheerleading for one of the flavors.
      - _mlbt 1y ago
        I'm not cheerleading, just explaining the differences as you asked. MAGA gets plenty of coverage here, while the WEF really doesn't, so I did lean a little more into explaining the authoritarian nature of leftist globalism.
        mindslight 1y ago
        Those are the exact same talking points I hear from people supporting Trump as some kind of supposed alternative. Our main political dynamic is that each professional team plays up how bad the other professional team is to drive support to themselves - so sensational criticism of one single professional team boils down to support for the other professional team. And as I said I thought we were criticizing authoritarianism in general. I wasn't asking you the difference between the two flavors in terms of their marketing, but asking why you would choose to focus on their differences rather than their commonalities, especially in the context of caring about individual liberty.
        _mlbt 1y ago
        Advocating that we should eat bugs and not own anything is a pretty serious infringement of personal liberty.
        mindslight 1y ago
        I don't see how advocating those things is itself an infringement of personal liberty. Are you coming from the all-too-common place of equating speech with violence? You've also missed my main point three times now while actually leaning into the exact dynamic I've described, and so I'm having a hard time interpreting your comments as earnestly condemning authoritarianism.