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Some difficult questions for sympathizers of illegal immigrants. 1) Why is this app allowed on the App Store? It’s helping illegal activity within the borders
by throwing-up 1y ago
Some difficult questions for sympathizers of illegal immigrants.
1) Why is this app allowed on the App Store? It’s helping illegal activity within the borders of a sovereign nation.
2) Nations are allowed to determine who comes and doesn’t to their countries as per their right to rule as a sovereign nation and their national security interests. Nobody vetted the 11-13 million people who poured over the border. It’s impossible to imagine that democratic institutions will not change their behavior if you get an influx of 11-13 million people, who then have children who become citizens. I mean that votes are just a counting game. So if you get more voters who are anti-abortion but previously you were all pro-choice, then that changes culture. So why shouldn’t countries get to decide who comes and goes?
3) Why shouldn’t countries have their own culture? Or not want to be multicultural? If there are laws that prevent racism or discrimination against different religions, then that’s not multiculturalism, just civility. Why is assimilation unacceptable for someone who moves in?
4) If you want to talk about the injustices of colonialism, then note that a) there are many countries that overcame those barriers despite similar histories to the country of origin of these illegal immigrants. Look at India, for instance.
And b) not all illegal immigrants are more poor countries, but from thriving economies like China, India, Mexico or Brazil. Why is it justified that thriving or different economies should offload people who struggle in their own countries to other countries? How is that responsible governance? Countries should be responsible for their own poor people.
5) Many Latin American nations were already developmentally different, or delayed from another perspective, when colonialists landed on their shores. It’s clear there are cultural differences which produce incompatibility in how people want to live or govern. Ideally, nations whose people were subjected to racism or colonialism would use Japan or Brazil as models for national growth and development. Why should people be forced to live together if they don’t want the same things?
- nomdep 1y ago[flagged]
- Quarrelsome 1y ago1) because ICE deportations are often performed illegally, are given target numbers to hit (i.e. the volume matters more than the correctness) and run by an administration that doesn't respect the courts. 2) not sure this is a question. People are predominantly upset because of ICE's methods, which are often aggressive and brutal (imprison first ask questions weeks or months later). 3) not sure this is a question either. My parents have no idea how to play super mario, so culture changes quite a lot internally within seemingly culturally homogenous communities. 4) who gives a shit about colonialism. Its just ironic when yanks talk about "muh America" when their entire culture is one of being immigrants. I believe that's the reason people bring it up. 5) People are already "forced" to live together wanting different things. Every US election is like 50/50. So idk how these questions are difficult. Also ICE go after legal migrants too, so this ain't just about "illegals". The irish guy who fucked his foot up and couldn't take his flight home went through every piece of due process possible and still got shit-canned. ICE are monstrous and oppressive.
- flanked-evergl 1y ago> 1) because ICE deportations are often performed illegally How often? Do you have some statistics? Is it 100 illegal deportations a day, or like 1 a quarter? How many citizens or people with valid visas or green cards has he deported in total? Is it like 1, or almost 1? > run by an administration that doesn't respect the courts. Can you cite some stats here? As far as I can tell Trump respects the courts more than Biden. > People are predominantly upset because of ICE's methods, which are often aggressive and brutal (imprison first ask questions weeks or months later). If the illegal aliens don't like it they are free leave. In fact I believe Trump is paying them to leave and giving them a free ticket out of the US. Not sure why they insist on staying. Literally millions of people get through the day every day without breaking the law, I'm sure they can also do it if they give it a try.
- Quarrelsome 1y agoIts on you to chase this up. Given how this has impacted tourists from across the globe you can find a wide array of news sources from various different nations documenting the tyranny of modern day america. That's why tourism is down, people wanna visit their friends in America, not spend weeks or months locked up without charge or due process cause some untrained ICE peon got a hard on.
- flanked-evergl 1y agoI did not make any positive claim, so no, it's not on me to "chase this up". I did, however, look it up, and the only case of an unlawful deportation I could find is of domestic abuser Kilmar Abrego Garcia. And as far as I'm aware there has been 0 deportations of people who are citizens or held valid visas or green cards Tourism being down proves nothing.
- Quarrelsome 1y agoBecky Burke, detained for 19 days while, she was entirely capable and willing to leave the US, yet they locked her up. There's plenty of these stories from all over the world, you're just not looking. The Irish man only known as "Thomas" (as he requested anonymity) tore a muscle in his leg and the doctor told him not to travel, so he overstayed his visa by three days, got locked up for 100 days by ICE. You're clearly not even trying or just searching infowars and then giving up. C'mon yo, I ain't here to spoonfeed.
- gruez 1y ago>1) Why is this app allowed on the App Store? It’s helping illegal activity within the borders of a sovereign nation. AFAIK courts have ruled that flashing your high beams to warn people of speed traps is protected under the first amendment. If that's protected, I don't see why warning people of ICE traps isn't protected either.
- crooked-v 1y agoReporting on and documenting law enforcement has never been illegal in the US.
- throwing-up 1y ago[dead]