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The real nasty bug (or feature, not sure) in the alarm app is that you have to wait for the wheel to bounce and come to a stop before the AM/PM part "sticks". I

by viccis 1y ago

The real nasty bug (or feature, not sure) in the alarm app is that you have to wait for the wheel to bounce and come to a stop before the AM/PM part "sticks". If you just swipe and click save, it will keep the previous setting and then your important 7am alarm stays as 7pm and you're late for work.

reneherse 1y ago
That bug burned me a couple times before I switched to using 24-hour time exclusively on my devices. For something that people use everyday, the iOS vertically-scrolling, fake-dial UI is just horrible in terms of usability and aesthetics, and I was glad when they added the ability to summon a numeric keypad with a single tap on the center dial. The keypad input and interaction is extremely well thought out and efficient for setting the time.
- clickety_clack 1y ago
  I once had to use a timesheet app that required scrolling around for all the times during the day. Timesheets are already horrendous, why compound that skin-crawling experience with such a horrendous UI? It was so hard for management to corral everyone to get the times entered that they went back to spreadsheets.
- apple4ever 1y ago
  Holy cow when did they add that tap??? The UI is bad and I always struggle finding the right type. Now I can just type??
buggymcbugfix 1y ago
One more reason to switch to 24h time? 0:)
rootsudo 1y ago
Wow so it wasn’t me. All this time and Apple can’t code an alarm properly.
PlunderBunny 1y ago
They can’t code menus properly any more either - in macOS, try selecting something like a time from the drop-down menus for a reminder (on the main list of the reminders app, not in the window for editing that particular reminder). Immediately after releasing the mouse button while the cursor is over the time you want, move it slightly up or down while the flash animation occurs - you have now selected a different time with no warning. Completely inconsistent with the way every other menu has worked on macOS since 1984. Logged a bug years ago, but presumably they have better things to do.
- godelski 1y ago
  Go try the shortcuts app. It is an absolute nightmare. Get a few blocks to fill up the screen and then put something at the end. Good luck... the work around I have is put a nothing block at the end. But that's not even half of it. I had a nice rsync script on termux that would back up my media to my local machine via rsync if I was on WiFi and connected to my local SSID. Like 20 lines including the logging. But I still haven't found a good way to do this with an iPhone. Best idiotic hack I've found is shortcuts were I ssh into the machine and then write the file if it doesn't already exist or dump it to /dev/null if it does. It's dumb that I'm mimicking rsync. It's dumb I have to dump to /dev/null. It's dumb I have to define a fixed number of videos and images. It's dumb I'm using shortcuts and can't just use a terminal emulator because all of them can't get access to my photos folder "for my protection". This is so much unnecessary complexity for what should be a trivial task and I can't even guarantee it gets all my media without crashing! This shit is driving me insane. If you wrote shortcuts I'd like to buy you a drink because I am absolute impressed with how terrible this app is. Like do you all program it blind? I just need to know
macintux 1y ago
Setting alarms is one of the few tasks I can rely on Siri to handle correctly, so I haven’t used the app in years.
- _kyran 1y ago
  Not sure if it still exists, but a few years ago there was a bug that if an alarm was created using Siri, it wouldn’t make a noise at the set time. It would show as a switched on in the clock app, but wouldn’t actually do the one thing it was meant to do.
  - kyleee 1y ago
    That’s part of the fun of Siri - it will be a surprise!
- godelski 1y ago
  I'm a bit confused by your comment. Are you saying OP is holding the phone wrong? Offering an alternative solution? Just making a comment about how it isn't an issue for you?
  - macintux 1y ago
    It was both a suggestion for an alternative mechanism that might prove less frustrating and a gripe that Siri is still, after so many years, mostly incapable of being a useful assistant.
teekert 1y ago
I can never remember if AM is After Midnight or After Midday or PM is Post Meridian or Post Midnight, or it's something like that, not to mention when 12:00 is... is it 12:00 or 0:00?. But ah well, I'm lucky to be in a place where we use 24h clocks (but hey, max we see is 23:59:59!) (unless they have arms). Btw, the iOS calendar is (was probably) also pretty "broken" [0] [0]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ER1a6jgW1Gs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ER1a6jgW1Gs
- madaxe_again 1y ago
  AM is ante meridian - PM post meridian. Meridian is midday.
  - 01HNNWZ0MV43FF 1y ago
    But midnight is exactly 12 hours post and ante meridian. And meridian is neither 12 hours post nor ante of itself. Where I can, I just say "noon" and "midnight". 12-hour time is frustrating because of this 0 == 12 bullshit
    - bubblebobble99 1y ago
      That’s the point though. They are called noon/midday and midnight. There is no am/pm on the 12. It’s 11:59pm, midnight, 12:01am, and 11:59am, midday, 12:01pm. Really it’s not that confusing, it’s just two points in time in the whole day and it’s fairly easily to tell which of them you are at unless you are close to the poles.we’ve managed to cope this long with them.
      - dimava 1y ago
        Except 12:01 is in 24-hour clock which doesn't have 12:00 problem in the first place
      - zoover2020 1y ago
        That's a lot of mental gymnastics to say 24h clock is easier
hopelite 1y ago
I wonder if that’s also related to a bug or buggy UX, where in iOS safari you have to wait for the website scroll momentum to stop before the bookmark button context menu from long-press will fire/appear. I guess it might all be computationally more efficient and better on battery life?
aaron695 1y ago
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godelski 1y ago
Switching from Android to iPhone caused lots of problems and this was one of the big ones. But what pisses me off the most is when I've talked to other engineers/programmers about this (or similar issues) they just dismiss me with things like "you're not holding it right", "okay, but what's the value?", or "is it really a big deal?" (Yes, it is a big deal that I set something and then it undid itself! Yes it's a big deal, that's why I'm fucking late and we're having this conversation!) Like come on guys, we're being paid north of $100k/yr (most well above that) and you can't just take the time to fix things? Earn your wage. Take some pride. Push back against your manager or just fucking fix it if it's quick. I swear, there's so much added complexity in these systems created by people proclaiming we need to keep it simple. What's simple about the alarm clock and timer clock having different interfaces yet are visually identical? What's simple about duplicated calendar events that could be hidden with a regex? What's simple about a system that can't find contacts with identical names, hiding the process for users to manually merging them, and adding a new birthday event when they finally succeed?! (This literally happened to me. My partner had 2 contacts in my phone, 3 birthdays, and when I merged I ended up with 4 and 3 I couldn't delete because they weren't associated with a contact...) We're making software worse. The AI isn't replacing jobs because we're getting more productive, it's replacing jobs because we pushed the bar so fucking low I'm more impressed to see that the code isn't written in Perl or Brainfuck
addicted 1y ago
Wow, this explains an alarm I missed literally yesterday which ended up being set to today AM instead of yesterday PM like I thought I set it.
jdlyga 1y ago
That's why the sleep/wake up alarm exists. It's a really nice UI. You set your weekly schedule, and if you need to push your alarm back, it uses a circular clock UI showing you how much sleep you'll get.

by viccis 1y ago

reneherse 1y ago

That bug burned me a couple times before I switched to using 24-hour time exclusively on my devices. For something that people use everyday, the iOS vertically-scrolling, fake-dial UI is just horrible in terms of usability and aesthetics, and I was glad when they added the ability to summon a numeric keypad with a single tap on the center dial. The keypad input and interaction is extremely well thought out and efficient for setting the time.

clickety_clack 1y ago
I once had to use a timesheet app that required scrolling around for all the times during the day. Timesheets are already horrendous, why compound that skin-crawling experience with such a horrendous UI? It was so hard for management to corral everyone to get the times entered that they went back to spreadsheets.
apple4ever 1y ago
Holy cow when did they add that tap??? The UI is bad and I always struggle finding the right type. Now I can just type??

buggymcbugfix 1y ago

One more reason to switch to 24h time? 0:)

rootsudo 1y ago

Wow so it wasn’t me. All this time and Apple can’t code an alarm properly.

PlunderBunny 1y ago

They can’t code menus properly any more either - in macOS, try selecting something like a time from the drop-down menus for a reminder (on the main list of the reminders app, not in the window for editing that particular reminder). Immediately after releasing the mouse button while the cursor is over the time you want, move it slightly up or down while the flash animation occurs - you have now selected a different time with no warning. Completely inconsistent with the way every other menu has worked on macOS since 1984. Logged a bug years ago, but presumably they have better things to do.

godelski 1y ago
Go try the shortcuts app. It is an absolute nightmare. Get a few blocks to fill up the screen and then put something at the end. Good luck... the work around I have is put a nothing block at the end. But that's not even half of it. I had a nice rsync script on termux that would back up my media to my local machine via rsync if I was on WiFi and connected to my local SSID. Like 20 lines including the logging. But I still haven't found a good way to do this with an iPhone. Best idiotic hack I've found is shortcuts were I ssh into the machine and then write the file if it doesn't already exist or dump it to /dev/null if it does. It's dumb that I'm mimicking rsync. It's dumb I have to dump to /dev/null. It's dumb I have to define a fixed number of videos and images. It's dumb I'm using shortcuts and can't just use a terminal emulator because all of them can't get access to my photos folder "for my protection". This is so much unnecessary complexity for what should be a trivial task and I can't even guarantee it gets all my media without crashing! This shit is driving me insane. If you wrote shortcuts I'd like to buy you a drink because I am absolute impressed with how terrible this app is. Like do you all program it blind? I just need to know

macintux 1y ago

Setting alarms is one of the few tasks I can rely on Siri to handle correctly, so I haven’t used the app in years.

_kyran 1y ago
Not sure if it still exists, but a few years ago there was a bug that if an alarm was created using Siri, it wouldn’t make a noise at the set time. It would show as a switched on in the clock app, but wouldn’t actually do the one thing it was meant to do.
- kyleee 1y ago
  That’s part of the fun of Siri - it will be a surprise!
godelski 1y ago
I'm a bit confused by your comment. Are you saying OP is holding the phone wrong? Offering an alternative solution? Just making a comment about how it isn't an issue for you?
- macintux 1y ago
  It was both a suggestion for an alternative mechanism that might prove less frustrating and a gripe that Siri is still, after so many years, mostly incapable of being a useful assistant.

teekert 1y ago

I can never remember if AM is After Midnight or After Midday or PM is Post Meridian or Post Midnight, or it's something like that, not to mention when 12:00 is... is it 12:00 or 0:00?. But ah well, I'm lucky to be in a place where we use 24h clocks (but hey, max we see is 23:59:59!) (unless they have arms). Btw, the iOS calendar is (was probably) also pretty "broken" [0] [0]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ER1a6jgW1Gs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ER1a6jgW1Gs

madaxe_again 1y ago
AM is ante meridian - PM post meridian. Meridian is midday.
- 01HNNWZ0MV43FF 1y ago
  But midnight is exactly 12 hours post and ante meridian. And meridian is neither 12 hours post nor ante of itself. Where I can, I just say "noon" and "midnight". 12-hour time is frustrating because of this 0 == 12 bullshit
  - bubblebobble99 1y ago
    That’s the point though. They are called noon/midday and midnight. There is no am/pm on the 12. It’s 11:59pm, midnight, 12:01am, and 11:59am, midday, 12:01pm. Really it’s not that confusing, it’s just two points in time in the whole day and it’s fairly easily to tell which of them you are at unless you are close to the poles.we’ve managed to cope this long with them.
    - dimava 1y ago
      Except 12:01 is in 24-hour clock which doesn't have 12:00 problem in the first place
    - zoover2020 1y ago
      That's a lot of mental gymnastics to say 24h clock is easier

hopelite 1y ago

I wonder if that’s also related to a bug or buggy UX, where in iOS safari you have to wait for the website scroll momentum to stop before the bookmark button context menu from long-press will fire/appear. I guess it might all be computationally more efficient and better on battery life?

aaron695 1y ago

[dead]

godelski 1y ago

Switching from Android to iPhone caused lots of problems and this was one of the big ones. But what pisses me off the most is when I've talked to other engineers/programmers about this (or similar issues) they just dismiss me with things like "you're not holding it right", "okay, but what's the value?", or "is it really a big deal?" (Yes, it is a big deal that I set something and then it undid itself! Yes it's a big deal, that's why I'm fucking late and we're having this conversation!) Like come on guys, we're being paid north of $100k/yr (most well above that) and you can't just take the time to fix things? Earn your wage. Take some pride. Push back against your manager or just fucking fix it if it's quick. I swear, there's so much added complexity in these systems created by people proclaiming we need to keep it simple. What's simple about the alarm clock and timer clock having different interfaces yet are visually identical? What's simple about duplicated calendar events that could be hidden with a regex? What's simple about a system that can't find contacts with identical names, hiding the process for users to manually merging them, and adding a new birthday event when they finally succeed?! (This literally happened to me. My partner had 2 contacts in my phone, 3 birthdays, and when I merged I ended up with 4 and 3 I couldn't delete because they weren't associated with a contact...) We're making software worse. The AI isn't replacing jobs because we're getting more productive, it's replacing jobs because we pushed the bar so fucking low I'm more impressed to see that the code isn't written in Perl or Brainfuck

addicted 1y ago

Wow, this explains an alarm I missed literally yesterday which ended up being set to today AM instead of yesterday PM like I thought I set it.

jdlyga 1y ago

That's why the sleep/wake up alarm exists. It's a really nice UI. You set your weekly schedule, and if you need to push your alarm back, it uses a circular clock UI showing you how much sleep you'll get.