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Can we stop conflating LLM models with the companies that created them? It's "…Gemini made up…". Do we not value accuracy? It'd be a whole different story if a

by geor9e 1y ago

Can we stop conflating LLM models with the companies that created them? It's "…Gemini made up…". Do we not value accuracy? It'd be a whole different story if a human defamed you, rather than a token predictor.

jjj123 1y ago
Why shouldn’t they be conflated? Google made the LLM, it is responsible for the LLMs output. I mean, no, I don’t think some Google employee tuned the LLM to produce output like this, but it doesn’t matter. They are still responsible.
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- geor9e 1y ago
  The HN headline I commented on was "Turns out Google made up an elaborate story about me". Someone (admin?) then added "AI Overview". My comment doesn't apply to the current headline. I got what I wanted.
  - jjj123 1y ago
    Yes, and I replied when it was still the original headline. I think they’re both appropriate headlines.
const_cast 1y ago
LLMs have no sovereignty, identity, or accountability - they are computer programs. We do not blame computer programs when they have bugs or make mistakes - we blame the human being who made them. This has always been the case since we have created anything, dating back even tens of thousands of years. You absolutely cannot just unilaterally decide to change that now based on a whim.
- geor9e 1y ago
  The HN headline I commented on was "Turns out Google made up an elaborate story about me". Someone (admin?) then added "AI Overview". My comment doesn't apply to the current headline. I got what I wanted.
  - rsynnott 1y ago
    The original was perfectly fine. This is Google's _fault_.
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rsynnott 1y ago
"Volkswagen faked emissions tests." "How dare you besmirch the good name of Volkswagen. This evil Volkswagen Passat faked the emissions tests." Companies are responsible for the bad things they make; the things themselves are, by definition, blameless.

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Can we stop conflating LLM models with the companies that created them? It's "…Gemini made up…". Do we not value accuracy? It'd be a whole different story if a

by geor9e 1y ago

jjj123 1y ago
Why shouldn’t they be conflated? Google made the LLM, it is responsible for the LLMs output. I mean, no, I don’t think some Google employee tuned the LLM to produce output like this, but it doesn’t matter. They are still responsible.
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- geor9e 1y ago
  The HN headline I commented on was "Turns out Google made up an elaborate story about me". Someone (admin?) then added "AI Overview". My comment doesn't apply to the current headline. I got what I wanted.
  - jjj123 1y ago
    Yes, and I replied when it was still the original headline. I think they’re both appropriate headlines.
const_cast 1y ago
LLMs have no sovereignty, identity, or accountability - they are computer programs. We do not blame computer programs when they have bugs or make mistakes - we blame the human being who made them. This has always been the case since we have created anything, dating back even tens of thousands of years. You absolutely cannot just unilaterally decide to change that now based on a whim.
- geor9e 1y ago
  The HN headline I commented on was "Turns out Google made up an elaborate story about me". Someone (admin?) then added "AI Overview". My comment doesn't apply to the current headline. I got what I wanted.
  - rsynnott 1y ago
    The original was perfectly fine. This is Google's _fault_.
deleted 1y ago
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rsynnott 1y ago
"Volkswagen faked emissions tests." "How dare you besmirch the good name of Volkswagen. This evil Volkswagen Passat faked the emissions tests." Companies are responsible for the bad things they make; the things themselves are, by definition, blameless.