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Show HN: We built an open-source alternative to expensive pair programming apps
My friend and I grew frustrated with the high cost of existing pair programming tools, and of course of grainy screens when we used Huddle or similar tools.
We believe core developer collaboration shouldn't be locked behind an expensive subscription.
So for the past year we spent our nights and weekend building Hopp, an open-source alternative.
We would love your feedback and we are here to answer any and all questions.
- gkove8 1y agoThis rocks.
- iparaskev 1y agoThank you :) (one of the maintainers here)
- pbd 1y agoCongrats on shipping! For adoption, have you considered integrating with existing workflows? CLI tools, IDE extensions, Slack integrations? The friction to start a pair session often matters more than the session quality itself.
- iparaskev 1y agoOne of the maintainers here. Very good point. Yes we want (and need) to start doing this, we should open github issues so people can help if they want.
- BoorishBears 1y agoI don't understand what makes this less grainy than any other option, like Discord Clicking in I thought this was going to be like Jetbrain's pair coding setup which uses your local native editor and only transmits editor content and user interaction
- ofrzeta 1y agoI think it is detailed in this blog post: https://gethopp.app/blog/latency-exploration https://gethopp.app/blog/latency-exploration
- iparaskev 1y agoOne of the maintainers here. I am looking at improving this more. With av1 we can get even better latency at 4K, the problem is that it is not supported on Safari for old devices, so I am looking into getting the stream in rust and sending it to the frontend via a local ws server, surprisingly to me the added transport latency is less than 5ms.
- ofrzeta 1y agoThanks for the heads-up. Also it would be great to be able to quickly switch "pairs". Currently Gather is switching their license so many people might be looking for alternatives. We don't need no running around on maps but having the ability to quickly jump between groups would be awesome.
- iparaskev 1y agoThis is nice suggestion. I created https://github.com/gethopp/hopp/issues/52 https://github.com/gethopp/hopp/issues/52. Feel free to add more info on how the ideal workflow would look like to you.
- prmoustache 1y agoI wish there was a way for people using different editors to pair program using their own favorite instead of say...dishing neovim or intellij for something monaco or web based.
- BoorishBears 1y agoI mean IntelliJ does have native collaboration CodeTogether has multiple platforms but I'm not sure if it allows different clients to connect together (And I was thinking this would be OSS CodeTogether)
- babhinav 1y ago[dead]
- robertlagrant 1y agoFeels like pair programming could use its equivalent of LSP, so editors could standardise interactions.
- konsalexee 1y agoPair programming though is not only editor interactions. Debugging through logs, drawing etc are happening outside an IDE.
- yencabulator 1y agoYour demo video is blocked as as tracking URL by uBlock Origin. (And loads janky after allowing that, the modal frame visibly shifts and resizes while loading.)
- konsalexee 1y agoWow did not know this, thanks for reporting, will probably then skip the video and add something more light-weight.