> For the republic, the crossing of the Rubicon is when it failed. I would agree with that, though I wouldn't say it was Caesar crossing that did it. It was Su

> For the republic, the crossing of the Rubicon is when it failed. I would agree with that, though I wouldn't say it was Caesar crossing that did it. It was Sulla crossing the Rubicon that broke that particular seal. And of course, the foundations were laid even before that.