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Such dribble. Let's ignore that Rome had been in decline since at least the Gracchi brothers over 500 earlier. Endless civil wars ended the Republic replaced b

Such dribble. Let's ignore that Rome had been in decline since at least the Gracchi brothers over 500 earlier. Endless civil wars ended the Republic replaced by a tyranny with only short periods of stability. Rome kept on for 500 years only because they'd conquer their neighbors between civil wars. Let's ignore that "tolerant" Rome had slaughtered countless Christians starting with Jesus himself (as pagan and Jewish sources also claim). About cruxifixction. Pagan, yet tolerant, Rome was a slave society built on brutality. Nietzsche's sneers that Christianity is a slave religion are true and Christianity's triumph over Minerva et al. is the conclusion of a slave revolt started by Spartacus whose cruxifixction foreshadows Christ. That or the Romans really loved to impale people. And anyway, did Rome really fall? Never mind that the Eastern half lasted an other 1000 years; after centuries of Romans using German troops Rome faced Alaric's Roman trained armies. There was no stopping the kraits this time.... and yet the Germans today use the Latin script. They model their bodies and minds under Roman ideals. To this day king in Germans is "Cesar". They worship the God decreed by the Roman Emperor.

tomhow 1y ago
> Such dribble. Please avoid swipes like this on HN. Your comment makes good points but is spoiled by this opening and the fulminating tone. Please take care to observe the guidelines, particularly these ones: Be kind. Edit out swipes. When disagreeing, please reply to the argument instead of calling names. "That is idiotic; 1 + 1 is 2, not 3" can be shortened to "1 + 1 is 2, not 3." Please don't fulminate. Please don't sneer. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
FranzFerdiNaN 1y ago
If the Christians offered to the emperor and participated in state rituals they wouldn’t have been persecuted and executed. There were plenty of cults and religions and most were absolutely fine. The problem was that the Christians placed themselves outside of the normal structures. That was a Big Deal. The rest, I dunno what happened but you seem to have some chip on your shoulder about the Romans. Nothing they did was out of the ordinary considering the times, or even compared to very recent times.
IAmBroom 1y ago
>Let's ignore that "tolerant" Rome had slaughtered ... Jesus himself (as pagan and Jewish sources also claim). Cite? I'm completely unaware of any non-Christian sources that mention the execution of Jesus of Nazareth.

tomhow 1y ago

> Such dribble. Please avoid swipes like this on HN. Your comment makes good points but is spoiled by this opening and the fulminating tone. Please take care to observe the guidelines, particularly these ones: Be kind. Edit out swipes. When disagreeing, please reply to the argument instead of calling names. "That is idiotic; 1 + 1 is 2, not 3" can be shortened to "1 + 1 is 2, not 3." Please don't fulminate. Please don't sneer. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

FranzFerdiNaN 1y ago

If the Christians offered to the emperor and participated in state rituals they wouldn’t have been persecuted and executed. There were plenty of cults and religions and most were absolutely fine. The problem was that the Christians placed themselves outside of the normal structures. That was a Big Deal. The rest, I dunno what happened but you seem to have some chip on your shoulder about the Romans. Nothing they did was out of the ordinary considering the times, or even compared to very recent times.

IAmBroom 1y ago

>Let's ignore that "tolerant" Rome had slaughtered ... Jesus himself (as pagan and Jewish sources also claim). Cite? I'm completely unaware of any non-Christian sources that mention the execution of Jesus of Nazareth.