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Thank you for the answer, what did they want change from? And why would Trump - a former president - provide more change than Harris? It's strange to me becaus

Thank you for the answer, what did they want change from? And why would Trump - a former president - provide more change than Harris? It's strange to me because it seemed like the dominating issues should have been recovering from the economic destruction wrought by covid monetary policy and dealing with the overt Russian threat.

anthem2025 1y ago
Biden literally campaigned on “nothing will fundamentally change”. Why would people think his VP would suddenly be different. Add in her proven unpopularity and the fact that they didn’t run a primary and you have a perfect recipe for a total disaster.
- cosmicgadget 1y ago
  I mean VPs are typically selected to be very different from their running mate. Just think of Trump and Pence. Or Trump and the guy who called him "America's Hitler".
  - anthem2025 1y ago
    She was selected because he promised a woman of color and she was the obvious choice from that pool.
    - cosmicgadget 1y ago
      Can you please connect that to the topic of discussion you started?
andsoitis 1y ago
> And why would Trump - a former president - provide more change than Harris? Famously, Kamala Harris said in an interview on The View that she was a biggest part of the impactful decisions in the Biden administration AND that there’s nothing she would have done differently! https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/08/politics/video/kamala-harris-the-view-interview-ana-navarro-digvid https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/08/politics/video/kamala-harris-... Making matters worse, when she went on Colbert she said nothing would change other than she would be president rather than Biden: https://youtu.be/6eZw3GzmPGc?feature=shared https://youtu.be/6eZw3GzmPGc?feature=shared Trump has already done many things very differently than in his own first term, and undoubtedly different from the prior administration.
- cosmicgadget 1y ago
  I just skipped through the Colbert one but I didn't hear her say nothing would change. Did I miss it or was it in reference to not unwinding any policies? She very specifically mentioned her 'opportunity economy' initiative which very clearly would be a change. Trump has definitely done many things differently but the rhetoric wasn't any different in the campaign - immigration, transgender athletes, and the bigliest prosperity you have every seen.
  - andsoitis 1y ago
    > I just skipped through the Colbert one but I didn't hear her say nothing would change. At the 30s mark: Colbert: “under a Harris administration, what would the changes be, and what would stay the same?” Harris: “sure, we’ll obviously I’m not Joe Biden, and so, uhm, that would be one change, but also it is important to say with 28 days to go I’m not Donald Trump and so when we think about the significance of what this next generation of leadership looks like were I to be elected president, it is about frankly, I love the American people…” So the only thing she said would change under Harrris administration is that she would be president, and then she deflected into aspirational outcomes with no specific ideas as to how to accomplish. Further, The View interview was on 10/8/2024 and the Colbert interview one day later. So she even had a chance to originate a recover from the “no change” statement.
    - cosmicgadget 1y ago
      I'm not sure how you can hear/read/write that and conclude her answer was "nothing will change". To be sure, it is a very unpracticed attempt to give a political non-answer, but that's not the same as affirmatively saying "this will be four years of the same". > aspirational outcomes with no specific ideas That's typical for this interview format, no? I mean, you can be critical of the lack of information density but we're talking about her agenda relative to Biden's - and, to an extent, the status quo Trump created (inflation, diminished foreign influence) since that dictated much of what Biden could do.
      - 1y ago
deepfriedchokes 1y ago
IMO, these are emotional decisions, not rational, and often people aren’t aware of where those feelings originate, as they stem from the subconscious. IMHO, the elephant in the room is capitalism, but it’s like the church, so sacrosanct you aren’t allowed to question it, so instead people take their anger out on those with less power.

anthem2025 1y ago

Biden literally campaigned on “nothing will fundamentally change”. Why would people think his VP would suddenly be different. Add in her proven unpopularity and the fact that they didn’t run a primary and you have a perfect recipe for a total disaster.

cosmicgadget 1y ago
I mean VPs are typically selected to be very different from their running mate. Just think of Trump and Pence. Or Trump and the guy who called him "America's Hitler".
- anthem2025 1y ago
  She was selected because he promised a woman of color and she was the obvious choice from that pool.
  - cosmicgadget 1y ago
    Can you please connect that to the topic of discussion you started?

andsoitis 1y ago

> And why would Trump - a former president - provide more change than Harris? Famously, Kamala Harris said in an interview on The View that she was a biggest part of the impactful decisions in the Biden administration AND that there’s nothing she would have done differently! https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/08/politics/video/kamala-harris-the-view-interview-ana-navarro-digvid https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/08/politics/video/kamala-harris-... Making matters worse, when she went on Colbert she said nothing would change other than she would be president rather than Biden: https://youtu.be/6eZw3GzmPGc?feature=shared https://youtu.be/6eZw3GzmPGc?feature=shared Trump has already done many things very differently than in his own first term, and undoubtedly different from the prior administration.

cosmicgadget 1y ago
I just skipped through the Colbert one but I didn't hear her say nothing would change. Did I miss it or was it in reference to not unwinding any policies? She very specifically mentioned her 'opportunity economy' initiative which very clearly would be a change. Trump has definitely done many things differently but the rhetoric wasn't any different in the campaign - immigration, transgender athletes, and the bigliest prosperity you have every seen.
- andsoitis 1y ago
  > I just skipped through the Colbert one but I didn't hear her say nothing would change. At the 30s mark: Colbert: “under a Harris administration, what would the changes be, and what would stay the same?” Harris: “sure, we’ll obviously I’m not Joe Biden, and so, uhm, that would be one change, but also it is important to say with 28 days to go I’m not Donald Trump and so when we think about the significance of what this next generation of leadership looks like were I to be elected president, it is about frankly, I love the American people…” So the only thing she said would change under Harrris administration is that she would be president, and then she deflected into aspirational outcomes with no specific ideas as to how to accomplish. Further, The View interview was on 10/8/2024 and the Colbert interview one day later. So she even had a chance to originate a recover from the “no change” statement.
  - cosmicgadget 1y ago
    I'm not sure how you can hear/read/write that and conclude her answer was "nothing will change". To be sure, it is a very unpracticed attempt to give a political non-answer, but that's not the same as affirmatively saying "this will be four years of the same". > aspirational outcomes with no specific ideas That's typical for this interview format, no? I mean, you can be critical of the lack of information density but we're talking about her agenda relative to Biden's - and, to an extent, the status quo Trump created (inflation, diminished foreign influence) since that dictated much of what Biden could do.
    - 1y ago

deepfriedchokes 1y ago

IMO, these are emotional decisions, not rational, and often people aren’t aware of where those feelings originate, as they stem from the subconscious. IMHO, the elephant in the room is capitalism, but it’s like the church, so sacrosanct you aren’t allowed to question it, so instead people take their anger out on those with less power.