Exactly that. Generally, engineers want to build and not go to meetings all day. The problem happens with the PMs who are supposed to be doing this work don't d

Exactly that. Generally, engineers want to build and not go to meetings all day. The problem happens with the PMs who are supposed to be doing this work don't do it, or do it poorly. You wind up with miscommunications: missing requirements, misunderstood edge cases, etc. This pisses people off big time.