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To be satisfyingly pedantic, my King isn’t the same King. Mine is the King of Canada. It just happens to be the same person as the King of England and the King
by Waterluvian 1y ago
To be satisfyingly pedantic, my King isn’t the same King. Mine is the King of Canada. It just happens to be the same person as the King of England and the King of Australia ;)
- KoolKat23 1y agoIf it walks like King Charles, and quacks like King Charles, then it must be...
- Waterluvian 1y agoassert(king_of_canada === king_of_england); They are the same by identity!
- ozim 1y agoDude lives in Buckingham Palace In UK … that’s kind of a dead giveaway :)
- Symbiote 1y agoHe actually lives in Clarence House (when in London), Buckingham Palace is currently only used for official business, parties etc. Arguably, Buckingham Palace should be turned into a museum (like several other former royal residences, e.g. Tower of London, Kew Palace).
- ozim 1y agoWell I guess so but Buckingham Palace is not so far away from Clearance House. So I brush it off as a technicality. Once I was in London I saw Harry and William being ferried to the Clearance House while I was walking The Mall.
- moomin 1y agoDepends if you’re comparing the people or the office holders. The office holder is a tuple.
- Someone 1y agoKing Charles the fourth? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_XV https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_XV: “Charles XV […] was King of Sweden and Norway, there often referred to as Charles IV”
- qingcharles 1y agoWhich King Charles? The one with his head or the one without?
- Waterluvian 1y agoWe’ll see.
- paulddraper 1y agoCoincidentally, that has been true for a while, through multiple kings/queens of Canada.
- robotresearcher 1y agoSince 1984. One of the facts I learned for the Canadian citizenship exam. So only Elizabeth and Charles.
- paulddraper 1y agoPerhaps so. Should you care, here’s the link to correct Wikipedia: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Canadian_monarchs https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Canadian_monarchs
- robotresearcher 1y agoThat page correctly describes the different entities that are all called ‘Canada’. It’s not wrong. The one that has its own monarch - the King/Queen of Canada - is the modern one, established in 1984. Previous to that, the UK’s monarch had dominion over Canada. In 1984 the roles were made distinct.
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- paulddraper 1y agoAh, wrong Canada :)
- monocasa 1y agoDo you have different rules for succession to where it might eventually be a different person?
- Waterluvian 1y agoNo I believe we have a "rule of recognition" where our monarch is just whoever the UK's monarch is.
- MatthewWilkes 1y agoThe last time the succession rules were changed (2013), it was following an agreement by the relevant countries. It was called the "Perth Agreement".
- xanderlewis 1y agoI guess the Axiom of Extensionality doesn’t apply to kings. Interesting.
- extraduder_ire 1y agoMuch like how one of the princes of Andorra is the same person who is president of France.
- ericd 1y agoSome friends and I started playing Crusader Kings 2 recently. If anyone wants a thorough education in the weirdness of feudal monarchy, I highly recommend it, half the game is manipulating weird inheritance laws/scenarios to grow your holdings.
- rags2riches 1y agoStill it skips over weirdness like the same person being both a sovereign king and vassal of another king. See for example King Henry II of England and Duke of Normandy etc.
- lifeisstillgood 1y agoIs that true? “”” Charles III, by the Grace of God, King of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and of His other Realms and Territories, Head of the Commonwealth, Defender of the Faith. “”” So in my head canon, he is the King of the UK and Canada … the same person and the same office. Ie there is no King of Canada officially - the title is always King of UK (first) and of other places as well … in short whilst Canada has a King, there is not a title “King Of Canada” that he can hold as well as holding “king of UK”
- andrewaylett 1y agoYep, it's absolutely true. Reference: https://www.canada.ca/en/canadian-heritage/services/crown-canada/monarch.html https://www.canada.ca/en/canadian-heritage/services/crown-ca... """ Queen Elizabeth II was the first of Canada's sovereigns to be proclaimed separately as Queen of Canada in 1953, when a Canadian law, the Royal Style and Titles Act, formally conferred upon her the title of "Queen of Canada". The proclamation reaffirmed the monarch’s role in Canada as independent of the monarch’s role in the United Kingdom and other Commonwealth realms. """
- tobylane 1y agoThe other realms the British King has are the Crown dependencies, eg Isle of Man. Australia is the odd one out in naming the UK as one of the other realms. Your head canon was true, before the independence of the Commonwealth countries.
- throawaywpg 1y agoThose are the titles bestowed upon him by the UK. But here is the full titles given to him by all entities (including Canada) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_titles_and_honours_of_Charles_III https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_titles_and_honours_of_... In Masai he's known as "The Helper of the Cows" (literally: he whom the cows love so much they call for him when they are in times of distress)
- retrac 1y agoElizabeth II was at war with herself, briefly. Jamaica has the monarchy. Jamaican forces were part of the US-led coalition that invaded Grenada in 1983, after the communists seized power. The communists found it politically expedient to maintain the structure of parliamentary government, and so the head of state of Grenada also remained nominally, Elizabeth II.
- School-Cotton 1y agoThere is an even more pedantic objection to your claim: there is no such person as the “King of England”; this is like saying Donald Trump is the President of California.
- arccy 1y agoThe King also works remotely from home with only the occasional trip in...
- jccalhoun 1y agoExactly. Isn't it strange that the Queen of England, Canada, New Zealand, and Australia ALL died on the same day? WAKE UP SHEEPLE!!!!
- Waterluvian 1y agoRight?! Listen, I know this sounds like a conspiracy… but I think the monarchy has historically been a mechanism used to centralize tremendous global power under a single banner. We ought to be mindful of that and, perhaps, construct checks and balances against this concentrated power.