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> How exactly is this supposed to work? It's not exactly "executive function in a pill", but in people with ADHD, stimulants help with task initiation and sust

> How exactly is this supposed to work? It's not exactly "executive function in a pill", but in people with ADHD, stimulants help with task initiation and sustained attention. That's often enough to help people create a structure for creating and maintaining habits that work for them.

zahlman 1y ago
That's not what I was asking. Please note both parts I italicized in my quotation, and how they interact.
- deleted 1y ago
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- CharlesW 1y ago
  Ah, now I understand what you meant. The OP assumed the "get diagnosed" part would be understood. I've made it explicit below: > Here’s an example: you (having undiagnosed ADHD) try to set a schedule, or use a todo list, or clean your bed every day, but it doesn’t stick. So you [get diagnosed and then] get on medication, and the medication lets you form your first habit: which is using a todo list app consistently, checking it every morning.
  - zahlman 1y ago
    No, you do not understand. Please read the parenthetical in my first post, in which I preemptively made it explicit.
    - chiph 1y ago
      Getting diagnosed is the first step. It can be a steeper step for some than others. But once you have a medication that works for you (which sometimes takes a few attempts) then you'll find that task avoidance becomes less frequent. Having a to-do list will help you ensure that the "must-do" tasks get completed. I rely on my phone's calendar, task list, and a journaling app named Daylio that I use to track how effective I was in completing tasks that day (you pick an emoji) I was fortunate to find a physician that specializes in ADHD. Most of his patients are children/teens but they also see adults like myself. You can also go the route of seeing a psychologist that specializes in ADHD.
    - danparsonson 1y ago
      At a certain point, if someone doesn't understand what you're communicating, it's a problem with your communication and not with them. Personally I still don't understand what you're trying to say; it wouldn't hurt for you to expand on your point if you want someone to respond in a useful way.
      - zahlman 1y ago
        I said it plainly: > Even assuming a health care system that actually cares about ADHD in adults, "just get a diagnosis" seems like a much higher bar than "just clean your bed every day". I would elaborate if I understood how there's any room for confusion. I don't.

zahlman 1y ago

That's not what I was asking. Please note both parts I italicized in my quotation, and how they interact.

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CharlesW 1y ago
Ah, now I understand what you meant. The OP assumed the "get diagnosed" part would be understood. I've made it explicit below: > Here’s an example: you (having undiagnosed ADHD) try to set a schedule, or use a todo list, or clean your bed every day, but it doesn’t stick. So you [get diagnosed and then] get on medication, and the medication lets you form your first habit: which is using a todo list app consistently, checking it every morning.
- zahlman 1y ago
  No, you do not understand. Please read the parenthetical in my first post, in which I preemptively made it explicit.
  - chiph 1y ago
    Getting diagnosed is the first step. It can be a steeper step for some than others. But once you have a medication that works for you (which sometimes takes a few attempts) then you'll find that task avoidance becomes less frequent. Having a to-do list will help you ensure that the "must-do" tasks get completed. I rely on my phone's calendar, task list, and a journaling app named Daylio that I use to track how effective I was in completing tasks that day (you pick an emoji) I was fortunate to find a physician that specializes in ADHD. Most of his patients are children/teens but they also see adults like myself. You can also go the route of seeing a psychologist that specializes in ADHD.
  - danparsonson 1y ago
    At a certain point, if someone doesn't understand what you're communicating, it's a problem with your communication and not with them. Personally I still don't understand what you're trying to say; it wouldn't hurt for you to expand on your point if you want someone to respond in a useful way.
    - zahlman 1y ago
      I said it plainly: > Even assuming a health care system that actually cares about ADHD in adults, "just get a diagnosis" seems like a much higher bar than "just clean your bed every day". I would elaborate if I understood how there's any room for confusion. I don't.