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This comment is proof that no matter how awesome the product in an article posted to HN, somebody will always find a way to declare that it will certainly fail.

by k33n 14y ago

This comment is proof that no matter how awesome the product in an article posted to HN, somebody will always find a way to declare that it will certainly fail. Your comment contains so many factual inaccuracies that it's not even worth debating. I hope that comments like this will start to be deleted in the future because they are the reason many people, including myself, refrain from participating here more.

mynameishere 14y ago
awesome Since when did obvious nuisances become "awesome". I hope that comments like this will start to be deleted I hope that comments referring to obvious nuisances as "awesome" will be deleted. Here's the problem, as no one has quite caught on yet: The public transport areas consist of two main areas: Those for street-legal vehicles (cars, motorbikes, bicycles) and pedestrians (walkers, wheelchairs, baby carriages). There is simply no place for semi-powered vehicles on sidewalks. A moped or segway or motorized skateboard is an absolute nuisance on the sidewalk, and is a danger to everybody on the roadway. It doesn't fit outside of a mall-cop context.
- k33n 14y ago
  At the risk of feeding the trolls, I'll bite. Who is this "obvious" to? Clearly not you, since you think it's a horrible idea. Electronic skateboards have been around for quite awhile, and until now, they've been very heavy and mostly impractical. Yet, they are a viable product in the market and popular enough that people are making money selling them. One of the reasons this product is a leap forward is because it's lightweight enough to be used as a normal skateboard without electric power. Simply stating that there is no place for this product on the sidewalk doesn't make it true, and I personally disagree with you. Stating that it is a "danger to everybody on the roadway" is absolutely absurd and simply untrue. Any vehicle that is under the control of a competent and observent operator will not be a danger to others in the least. Here's the real problem: The contrarian, negative, hostile commenters on HN are the vocal majority in a lot of cases. Personally, I'm really, really tired of this even being accepted by the community.
  - mynameishere 14y ago
    Simply stating that there is no place for this product on the sidewalk I'm not "simply stating" anything. Most municipalities have ordinances against powered vehicles on sidewalks. It's simple. It's straightforward. It's sensible. It's correct. I'm talking law and you're talking this guy's a troll. No. Please, please, please learn basic internet lingo before you abuse it. Please?
    - silvertab 14y ago
      I may be missing something here but, where did anyone mention riding a longboard on the sidewalk? I live in a big city and when a street doesn't have a dedicated cycle lane (shared by not only bicycles but, rollerblades and longboards), these people just ride between parked and moving cars... I don't see how a longboard is more of a nuisance than a bicycle really? I've seen people on bicycles going at about 5mph, slowing down all the traffic, and I've seen people riding longboards at ~15-20mph (and vice versa). Sure riding a longboard on the sidewalk is not only a nuisance, it's probably a bad idea for anyone involved... but I'm not sure why they couldn't be allowed to ride where bicycles are allowed to ride?
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  - rayiner 14y ago
    Skateboarders are a huge nuisance on sidewalks. They simply move much faster than everyone else using the sidewalk, and disparity in speed is a huge source of danger in transportation. I can only imagine it'll be worse with a faster, motorized skateboard.
crazygringo 14y ago
But your comment is useless. I don't know anything about skateboarding, and would love to learn why you think the commenter is wrong, but you aren't providing any reasons -- just saying it's "not even worth debating". Instead you're lamenting the quality of commenters on HN... I really hate to say it, but maybe you should take a look in the mirror in this case?

by k33n 14y ago

mynameishere 14y ago

awesome Since when did obvious nuisances become "awesome". I hope that comments like this will start to be deleted I hope that comments referring to obvious nuisances as "awesome" will be deleted. Here's the problem, as no one has quite caught on yet: The public transport areas consist of two main areas: Those for street-legal vehicles (cars, motorbikes, bicycles) and pedestrians (walkers, wheelchairs, baby carriages). There is simply no place for semi-powered vehicles on sidewalks. A moped or segway or motorized skateboard is an absolute nuisance on the sidewalk, and is a danger to everybody on the roadway. It doesn't fit outside of a mall-cop context.

k33n 14y ago
At the risk of feeding the trolls, I'll bite. Who is this "obvious" to? Clearly not you, since you think it's a horrible idea. Electronic skateboards have been around for quite awhile, and until now, they've been very heavy and mostly impractical. Yet, they are a viable product in the market and popular enough that people are making money selling them. One of the reasons this product is a leap forward is because it's lightweight enough to be used as a normal skateboard without electric power. Simply stating that there is no place for this product on the sidewalk doesn't make it true, and I personally disagree with you. Stating that it is a "danger to everybody on the roadway" is absolutely absurd and simply untrue. Any vehicle that is under the control of a competent and observent operator will not be a danger to others in the least. Here's the real problem: The contrarian, negative, hostile commenters on HN are the vocal majority in a lot of cases. Personally, I'm really, really tired of this even being accepted by the community.
- mynameishere 14y ago
  Simply stating that there is no place for this product on the sidewalk I'm not "simply stating" anything. Most municipalities have ordinances against powered vehicles on sidewalks. It's simple. It's straightforward. It's sensible. It's correct. I'm talking law and you're talking this guy's a troll. No. Please, please, please learn basic internet lingo before you abuse it. Please?
  - silvertab 14y ago
    I may be missing something here but, where did anyone mention riding a longboard on the sidewalk? I live in a big city and when a street doesn't have a dedicated cycle lane (shared by not only bicycles but, rollerblades and longboards), these people just ride between parked and moving cars... I don't see how a longboard is more of a nuisance than a bicycle really? I've seen people on bicycles going at about 5mph, slowing down all the traffic, and I've seen people riding longboards at ~15-20mph (and vice versa). Sure riding a longboard on the sidewalk is not only a nuisance, it's probably a bad idea for anyone involved... but I'm not sure why they couldn't be allowed to ride where bicycles are allowed to ride?
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- rayiner 14y ago
  Skateboarders are a huge nuisance on sidewalks. They simply move much faster than everyone else using the sidewalk, and disparity in speed is a huge source of danger in transportation. I can only imagine it'll be worse with a faster, motorized skateboard.

crazygringo 14y ago

But your comment is useless. I don't know anything about skateboarding, and would love to learn why you think the commenter is wrong, but you aren't providing any reasons -- just saying it's "not even worth debating". Instead you're lamenting the quality of commenters on HN... I really hate to say it, but maybe you should take a look in the mirror in this case?