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Ok, so ignore your goveenment paranoia. Sure theyre out to get you. But ask yourself, would business do this anyway? The answer is yes. Google needs a growth t

Ok, so ignore your goveenment paranoia. Sure theyre out to get you. But ask yourself, would business do this anyway? The answer is yes. Google needs a growth target and modeling app store lockin and fees is there. Youre free to live in paranoid government land, but its an unnecessary abstraction. Its actually the EU and US rulings against their monopoly thats driving it. Again, the paranoia is just drivel.

abound 1y ago
[Ignoring gov't paranoia discussion] > Its actually the EU and US rulings against their monopoly thats driving it. Can you elaborate on this? Locking phones down like this would seem to make Google an even bigger target for future anti-trust suits, no?
- cyanydeez 1y ago
  Depends on how they implement it and how they seed political support. Id they sell it as "save the kids" and give token authority to the same kind of DCMA region lockin, itll become a government backed utility. Monopoly enforcement only occurs when theres no natural monopoly.
- Nasrudith 1y ago
  It sounds like the classic selective enforcement quid-pro-quo mafia state bullshit. The government doesn't really care about antitrust compared to control and snooping, it just makes a convenient excuse to arbitrarily punish for compliance. Just look at the "payment for services rendered" given with unenforced broadband expansion funding that wound up in pockets and every ISP having a room 641A.
daveguy 1y ago
> Again, the paranoia is just drivel. Well, in this domain (government surveillance), probably not paranoia. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Snowden https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Snowden
cherryteastain 1y ago
We were told "don't be paranoid" before Snowden and look at how that turned out.
anonymousab 1y ago
> goveenment paranoia This is just what you'd expect any government that is either competent or greedy to be doing, given the technologies at play. Calling it "thought crime" is, of course, a bit glib. But things like "we want to monitor the communications of every pro Palestinian university student so we can take proactive disruptive actions" are very real and not so hidden desires and sentiments of modern Western governments.

abound 1y ago

[Ignoring gov't paranoia discussion] > Its actually the EU and US rulings against their monopoly thats driving it. Can you elaborate on this? Locking phones down like this would seem to make Google an even bigger target for future anti-trust suits, no?

cyanydeez 1y ago
Depends on how they implement it and how they seed political support. Id they sell it as "save the kids" and give token authority to the same kind of DCMA region lockin, itll become a government backed utility. Monopoly enforcement only occurs when theres no natural monopoly.
Nasrudith 1y ago
It sounds like the classic selective enforcement quid-pro-quo mafia state bullshit. The government doesn't really care about antitrust compared to control and snooping, it just makes a convenient excuse to arbitrarily punish for compliance. Just look at the "payment for services rendered" given with unenforced broadband expansion funding that wound up in pockets and every ISP having a room 641A.

daveguy 1y ago

> Again, the paranoia is just drivel. Well, in this domain (government surveillance), probably not paranoia. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Snowden https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Snowden

cherryteastain 1y ago

We were told "don't be paranoid" before Snowden and look at how that turned out.

anonymousab 1y ago

> goveenment paranoia This is just what you'd expect any government that is either competent or greedy to be doing, given the technologies at play. Calling it "thought crime" is, of course, a bit glib. But things like "we want to monitor the communications of every pro Palestinian university student so we can take proactive disruptive actions" are very real and not so hidden desires and sentiments of modern Western governments.