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I'm kind of surprised by this. Google is already under a lot of heat, especially in Europe. All sorts of lawsuits everywhere because of they monopoly abuse. And

I'm kind of surprised by this. Google is already under a lot of heat, especially in Europe. All sorts of lawsuits everywhere because of they monopoly abuse. And they decide to pull this move?

supportengineer 1y ago
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- vvpan 1y ago
  Yes and no. Yes billionaires are not people to be trusted but also they are a structural problem, a CEO that does not squeeze last the last penny out of users for shareholder value is just not doing their job. Billionaires are a-holes because the corporate incentive system rewards people like them. We need new structures.
  - jjani 1y ago
    > , a CEO that does not squeeze last the last penny out of users for shareholder value is just not doing their job This has not always been the case. And still isn't in plenty of locales and companies. The S&P 500 of 2025 doesn't define immutable universal laws.
    - bonoboTP 1y ago
      Dodge v. Ford Motor Co. was in 1919.
      - vvpan 1y ago
        I was not aware of that! Basically you can get sued if you are caught prioritizing employees or customers over shareholders?
112233 1y ago
OTOH, it gives more options to implement Cyber Resilience Act requirements, especially once the boundaries get mapped out in real life
oldpersonintx2 1y ago
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frollogaston 1y ago
New EU laws are kinda requiring Google to do this
- progval 1y ago
  Which ones?
  - wkat4242 1y ago
    Chatcontrol in particular. If you control your phone it's going to be trivial to bypass it.
    - remify 1y ago
      Chatcontrol isn't there yet.
      - wkat4242 1y ago
        No of course but it will be. There's another vote on the 17th of October and most countries are in favour now :( And if it fails again I'm sure they will keep trying like they have been until they can finally push it through. Notably in this iterations the politicans are making an exemption for themselves and their servants (including police etc). But I think Google thinks the time is right now because it will be a prerequisite for this.
- jjani 1y ago
  Eagerly awaiting Apple doing the same on Macs then. Let alone any Linux distribution.
  - frollogaston 1y ago
    PCs aren't phones, but those might get there too some day

I'm kind of surprised by this. Google is already under a lot of heat, especially in Europe. All sorts of lawsuits everywhere because of they monopoly abuse. And they decide to pull this move?

supportengineer 1y ago

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vvpan 1y ago
Yes and no. Yes billionaires are not people to be trusted but also they are a structural problem, a CEO that does not squeeze last the last penny out of users for shareholder value is just not doing their job. Billionaires are a-holes because the corporate incentive system rewards people like them. We need new structures.
- jjani 1y ago
  > , a CEO that does not squeeze last the last penny out of users for shareholder value is just not doing their job This has not always been the case. And still isn't in plenty of locales and companies. The S&P 500 of 2025 doesn't define immutable universal laws.
  - bonoboTP 1y ago
    Dodge v. Ford Motor Co. was in 1919.
    - vvpan 1y ago
      I was not aware of that! Basically you can get sued if you are caught prioritizing employees or customers over shareholders?

112233 1y ago

OTOH, it gives more options to implement Cyber Resilience Act requirements, especially once the boundaries get mapped out in real life

oldpersonintx2 1y ago

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frollogaston 1y ago

New EU laws are kinda requiring Google to do this

progval 1y ago
Which ones?
- wkat4242 1y ago
  Chatcontrol in particular. If you control your phone it's going to be trivial to bypass it.
  - remify 1y ago
    Chatcontrol isn't there yet.
    - wkat4242 1y ago
      No of course but it will be. There's another vote on the 17th of October and most countries are in favour now :( And if it fails again I'm sure they will keep trying like they have been until they can finally push it through. Notably in this iterations the politicans are making an exemption for themselves and their servants (including police etc). But I think Google thinks the time is right now because it will be a prerequisite for this.
jjani 1y ago
Eagerly awaiting Apple doing the same on Macs then. Let alone any Linux distribution.
- frollogaston 1y ago
  PCs aren't phones, but those might get there too some day