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I fail to see the difference between this and many other normal parts of life. Want to renovate and change your home that you own? You need permitting and not

I fail to see the difference between this and many other normal parts of life. Want to renovate and change your home that you own? You need permitting and not all changes are allowed. But you own the home and land so why do you need permitting? Say you want to modify your car that you own, again depending on the modification that's technically not allowed either (an aerodynamic wing in a place like Japan, for instance, can't be certain dimensions; but if you own the car you should be able to do what you want with it). Maybe none of these types of things should be beholden to someone holding the reins of the thing you own but it's not like Apple not allowing sideloading is some wholly unique problem.

galleywest200 1y ago
In all of these cases the law is what is requiring compliance here, not the manufacturer. If there was a law requiring apps to be approved by someone first then your argument would be valid, but I do not think such a law exists (at least in my country).
- wredcoll 1y ago
  This is actually a really good point. While complying with a regulation vs a business requirement may feel like the same thing in practice, there is at least an avenue to change the regulation via, you know, democracy.
- eldaisfish 1y ago
  when you modify your car, the manufacturer will often claim that parts of your warranty are void. That's not the legal system imposing limits.
  - immibis 1y ago
    But you're allowed to void your warranty. You don't have to have a warranty. It's not a real limit.
  - aduty 1y ago
    Yeah, but the manufacturer can't have some Pinkertons go to your house and murder your wife, sons and dogs over it either. You just have financial responsibility for whatever it voids.
greekrich92 1y ago
Conflating government regulation, which is often about safety and the public good (as imperfect and at risk of corruption as it may be), with the policies of private companies trying to replace regular commerce with a surveillance-based rentier economy is disingenuous at best
engeljohnb 1y ago
> Want to renovate and change your home that you own? You need permitting and not all changes are allowed. But you own the home and land so why do you need permitting? I believe both this situation and the iphone software situation are wrong, so it's not really a counter argument.

galleywest200 1y ago

In all of these cases the law is what is requiring compliance here, not the manufacturer. If there was a law requiring apps to be approved by someone first then your argument would be valid, but I do not think such a law exists (at least in my country).

wredcoll 1y ago
This is actually a really good point. While complying with a regulation vs a business requirement may feel like the same thing in practice, there is at least an avenue to change the regulation via, you know, democracy.
eldaisfish 1y ago
when you modify your car, the manufacturer will often claim that parts of your warranty are void. That's not the legal system imposing limits.
- immibis 1y ago
  But you're allowed to void your warranty. You don't have to have a warranty. It's not a real limit.
- aduty 1y ago
  Yeah, but the manufacturer can't have some Pinkertons go to your house and murder your wife, sons and dogs over it either. You just have financial responsibility for whatever it voids.

greekrich92 1y ago

Conflating government regulation, which is often about safety and the public good (as imperfect and at risk of corruption as it may be), with the policies of private companies trying to replace regular commerce with a surveillance-based rentier economy is disingenuous at best

engeljohnb 1y ago

> Want to renovate and change your home that you own? You need permitting and not all changes are allowed. But you own the home and land so why do you need permitting? I believe both this situation and the iphone software situation are wrong, so it's not really a counter argument.