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>There’s something refreshing about v6. No AI or stem separation. Stem separation in Logic is an insanely useful feature.

diggan 1y ago
> Stem separation in Logic is an insanely useful feature. For some, and for others not. DAWs are so huge, feature-packed and try to cater to so many use cases, that at one point you have to say no to something. While stem separation is useful for many things, I've only "missed" it for DJ duties, and then I'm not using a DAW anyways but whatever DJ OS/software the controller needs/has, so I'd probably say I'm another user who don't care about my DAW having stem separation or not. I don't think I've felt like I needed that even once for production purposes.
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- wintermutestwin 1y ago
  Don’t you use reference tracks? I assume that anyone seriously using a DAW does. Imagine being able to easily reference just one instrument. Just to call out a pretty universal use case for stem separation…
  - vunderba 1y ago
    Not OP, but my workflow for composition is to sing a new melody, flesh out an arrangement on my Montage, and bring it into my DAW for adding layers, effect chains, etc. I don't think I've ever used a reference track in the 20 odd years I've been making music. Personally I'd prefer Bitwig focus on core DAW features rather than something like stem separation for which there are already many decent dedicated tools (demucs, spleeter, etc.)
  - diggan 1y ago
    I used reference tracks for mastering before, once or twice for mixing, but outside of that, not so much. And when I've used them, I haven't thought once I needed to separate out the instruments, but I guess that's because of what I used them for. Most of the production I do is outside of Ableton, so maybe I'm not considered a "serious" Ableton user :)
  - Mashimo 1y ago
    > I assume that anyone seriously using a DAW does. Ah, the classic "you use it different, you are not serious" argument.

diggan 1y ago

> Stem separation in Logic is an insanely useful feature. For some, and for others not. DAWs are so huge, feature-packed and try to cater to so many use cases, that at one point you have to say no to something. While stem separation is useful for many things, I've only "missed" it for DJ duties, and then I'm not using a DAW anyways but whatever DJ OS/software the controller needs/has, so I'd probably say I'm another user who don't care about my DAW having stem separation or not. I don't think I've felt like I needed that even once for production purposes.

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wintermutestwin 1y ago
Don’t you use reference tracks? I assume that anyone seriously using a DAW does. Imagine being able to easily reference just one instrument. Just to call out a pretty universal use case for stem separation…
- vunderba 1y ago
  Not OP, but my workflow for composition is to sing a new melody, flesh out an arrangement on my Montage, and bring it into my DAW for adding layers, effect chains, etc. I don't think I've ever used a reference track in the 20 odd years I've been making music. Personally I'd prefer Bitwig focus on core DAW features rather than something like stem separation for which there are already many decent dedicated tools (demucs, spleeter, etc.)
- diggan 1y ago
  I used reference tracks for mastering before, once or twice for mixing, but outside of that, not so much. And when I've used them, I haven't thought once I needed to separate out the instruments, but I guess that's because of what I used them for. Most of the production I do is outside of Ableton, so maybe I'm not considered a "serious" Ableton user :)
- Mashimo 1y ago
  > I assume that anyone seriously using a DAW does. Ah, the classic "you use it different, you are not serious" argument.