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Because there's absolutely no reason to believe that's the case? Like I don't know what the point of this argument is: maybe it's impossible. Sure, great. Okay.

by XorNot 1y ago

Because there's absolutely no reason to believe that's the case? Like I don't know what the point of this argument is: maybe it's impossible. Sure, great. Okay. But you know...let's actually find out, because it looks very possible if hard from our current vantage point.

ecb_penguin 1y ago
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- bigDinosaur 1y ago
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  - ecb_penguin 1y ago
    > This is perhaps the single worst form of argument I've ever seen. It's because you didn't understand it > 'how can a cancer cell live indefinitely but other cells cannot' Cancer cells are damaged cells mutating without regard for function. It's pretty obvious that there is a difference between "living indefinitely in a mutated form devoid of original function" is different from a cell performing a specific function
- exe34 1y ago
  Do you believe this limit on lifespan is a uniquely human condition? or do you believe that it's impossible for any animal whatsoever to have a long lifespan (let's say 400 years for the sake of argument here).
  - Qem 1y ago
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenland_shark https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenland_shark
    - exe34 1y ago
      yes precisely. that's why I picked 400 years
  - ecb_penguin 1y ago
    > Do you believe this limit on lifespan is a uniquely human condition No > or do you believe that it's impossible for any animal whatsoever to have a long lifespan Let's pick an arbitrary timeframe and declare that as long No, I don't think anything is impossible when you pick dates "for the sake of argument"
    - exe34 1y ago
      if you claim to think that 4x your current max-ish lifespan isn't long, then you're not having an argument in good faith, are you?
brabel 1y ago
> Because there's absolutely no reason to believe that's the case? The fact we haven't seen an organism live forever is strong evidence that that's the case. You're the one making the case without any evidence!

by XorNot 1y ago

ecb_penguin 1y ago

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bigDinosaur 1y ago
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- ecb_penguin 1y ago
  > This is perhaps the single worst form of argument I've ever seen. It's because you didn't understand it > 'how can a cancer cell live indefinitely but other cells cannot' Cancer cells are damaged cells mutating without regard for function. It's pretty obvious that there is a difference between "living indefinitely in a mutated form devoid of original function" is different from a cell performing a specific function
exe34 1y ago
Do you believe this limit on lifespan is a uniquely human condition? or do you believe that it's impossible for any animal whatsoever to have a long lifespan (let's say 400 years for the sake of argument here).
- Qem 1y ago
  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenland_shark https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenland_shark
  - exe34 1y ago
    yes precisely. that's why I picked 400 years
- ecb_penguin 1y ago
  > Do you believe this limit on lifespan is a uniquely human condition No > or do you believe that it's impossible for any animal whatsoever to have a long lifespan Let's pick an arbitrary timeframe and declare that as long No, I don't think anything is impossible when you pick dates "for the sake of argument"
  - exe34 1y ago
    if you claim to think that 4x your current max-ish lifespan isn't long, then you're not having an argument in good faith, are you?

brabel 1y ago

> Because there's absolutely no reason to believe that's the case? The fact we haven't seen an organism live forever is strong evidence that that's the case. You're the one making the case without any evidence!