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The problem is that that is very easy to prove... but really hard to convince a modern judge of.

by peterfirefly 1y ago

d1sxeyes 1y ago
Can you prove it?
- bofadeez 1y ago
  https://psycnet.apa.org/doiLanding?doi=10.1037%2F0033-2909.124.2.262 https://psycnet.apa.org/doiLanding?doi=10.1037%2F0033-2909.1... full: https://www.talytica.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/Schmidt-and-Hunter-1998-Validity-and-Utility-Psychological-Bulletin.pdf https://www.talytica.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/Schmidt-... proof provided. what's the next pivot now? can't wait to see the mental gymnastics d1sxeyes does to respond.
  - d1sxeyes 1y ago
    You already posted this. It’s not proof. It’s a meta analysis that suggests that in general cognitive ability might have some role in differences in job performance (maybe up to 25%). It doesn’t even touch the question of whether IQ tests are good measures of cognitive ability, nor does it only include IQ tests as measures of cognitive ability.
    - bofadeez 1y ago
      So you just affirmed "a business that believes hiring is better using IQ is not able to do so since the supreme court ruled that is racist" without realizing it. Not being consistent but it's okay. Great job lol
      - hirvi74 1y ago
        Does your IQ score bring you some sense of purpose or identity? Does someone disagreeing with you or asking question cut at the very core of your sense of being? In this thread, you have been nothing but rude, condescending, and snarky to your fellow YC users. So, what gives?
        bofadeez 1y ago
        I've never taken an IQ test. I just care about intellectual honesty and was responding to someone who called for IQ testing as a prerequisite to posting on this forum. What's the next pivot in the argument?
        d1sxeyes 1y ago
        That’s fair, I shouldn’t have said that, I’m sorry.
        hirvi74 1y ago
        > What's the next pivot in the argument? That's up to you, homie. Where do you want to take this?
tptacek 1y ago
You're all trying to axiomatically derive a result that clearly conflicts with empirical evidence. IQ tests do get used in American hiring; not not that often, because they don't work well for that purpose.

The problem is that that is very easy to prove... but really hard to convince a modern judge of.

d1sxeyes 1y ago

Can you prove it?

bofadeez 1y ago
https://psycnet.apa.org/doiLanding?doi=10.1037%2F0033-2909.124.2.262 https://psycnet.apa.org/doiLanding?doi=10.1037%2F0033-2909.1... full: https://www.talytica.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/Schmidt-and-Hunter-1998-Validity-and-Utility-Psychological-Bulletin.pdf https://www.talytica.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/Schmidt-... proof provided. what's the next pivot now? can't wait to see the mental gymnastics d1sxeyes does to respond.
- d1sxeyes 1y ago
  You already posted this. It’s not proof. It’s a meta analysis that suggests that in general cognitive ability might have some role in differences in job performance (maybe up to 25%). It doesn’t even touch the question of whether IQ tests are good measures of cognitive ability, nor does it only include IQ tests as measures of cognitive ability.
  - bofadeez 1y ago
    So you just affirmed "a business that believes hiring is better using IQ is not able to do so since the supreme court ruled that is racist" without realizing it. Not being consistent but it's okay. Great job lol
    - hirvi74 1y ago
      Does your IQ score bring you some sense of purpose or identity? Does someone disagreeing with you or asking question cut at the very core of your sense of being? In this thread, you have been nothing but rude, condescending, and snarky to your fellow YC users. So, what gives?
      - bofadeez 1y ago
        I've never taken an IQ test. I just care about intellectual honesty and was responding to someone who called for IQ testing as a prerequisite to posting on this forum. What's the next pivot in the argument?
        d1sxeyes 1y ago
        That’s fair, I shouldn’t have said that, I’m sorry.
        hirvi74 1y ago
        > What's the next pivot in the argument? That's up to you, homie. Where do you want to take this?

tptacek 1y ago

You're all trying to axiomatically derive a result that clearly conflicts with empirical evidence. IQ tests do get used in American hiring; not not that often, because they don't work well for that purpose.