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Man declares country in unclaimed pocket of land between Serbia and Croatia
- polotics 1y agoThe saying "You and what army?" comes to mind...
- olddustytrail 1y agoMove there and see how it works out.
- dyauspitr 1y agoThe Croats have already destroyed their settlement once before
- ranger_danger 1y agoSounds like an invasion to me.
- 4gotunameagain 1y agoThe article says that Jackson says he now lives in “exile” in Dover, where he goes to the socializes with friends and plays video games. ahahaha
- brahman88 1y agolol
- chihuahua 1y ago[flagged]
- MadnessASAP 1y agoThey have neither the proletariat nor the bourgeois to rebel against in order to form communisim. They do seem to have the tinpot dictator though, so that's a start.
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- 2OEH8eoCRo0 1y agoNewFreeLand! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvXrn3iQN7Q https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvXrn3iQN7Q
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- LeoPanthera 1y agoCountries aren't created by being "declared", they're created by being recognized by other countries.
- wkat4242 1y agoYeah it's a bit comparable to Sealand. It's cool them issuing passports and all but if nobody recognises them you might as well use your hacker space passport
- moduspol 1y agoOf course, but don’t they have to be declared before being recognized? One step at a time!
- manquer 1y agoIt is not that simple, you can "declare" states[1] There are two main theories declarative and constitutive for state recognition. The Article 3 of the 1933 Montevideo convention infers a state can exist even if no other state recognizes it. The convention was merely codification existing principles, so it is supposed to even non-signatories as long they are subject to international law. This view is endorsed by the EU and other entities. The declarative theory states only four basic preconditions: - A permanent population of residents/citizens - A defined territory - need not be undisputed - A government - Ability to enter into relations with other states The constitutive theory on other hand defines a state that has to be recognized by just one other state. Recognition is merely paper legitimacy and about geopolitics and just esoteric aspect of international law. In practice, as always it works quite differently basis power dynamics. There are many autonomous regions who have been basically independent for decades without recognition and other way round wide spread recognition without any autonomy. For example Palestine is recognized by 147 UN member states compared to just 12 states that recognize Taiwan(ROC) and therefore not PRC[2] . In reality Taiwan deals with every single country in an informal capacity and their exports are core to the whole world. There are states with no recognition like Somaliland but would be a state in the declarative theory. In addition to first three conditions being met, it has recently entered legal agreement with Ethiopia for port access, and has relationship with Taiwan etc, but it is not formally recognized by anyone. --- [1] Sadly you cannot "declare" bankruptcy legally yet though ;) [2] Technically Taiwan(ROC) and Mainland(PRC) both claim the entirety of China as either the successor(PRC) or continuation(ROC) of the state before 1949, so recognizing Taiwan means recognizing Taiwan claim over all of China and not recognizing PRC. There is no mechanism for recognizing current reality of two independent functioning states. There used to be many more states which did recognized ROC over PRC, till 1971 even UN did not recognize PRC, but those numbers have dwindled and only very few mostly micro nations now still recognize Taiwan. The history of how China and Taiwan use a lot of diplomacy, investments, loans and other inducements in return for recognition is quite interesting. It is possible in another 5-10 years not a single state would recognize Taiwan formally but everyone would happily work with them as though they are a state.
- reader9274 1y agoHe needs to also declare bankruptcy
- siva7 1y agoIs this guy aware that these countries have fought a bloody war not long ago around land issues? Probably not the ones you wanna joke around.
- wmichelin 1y agoTypo in the article? > Jackson says he now lives in “exile” in Dover, where he goes to the socializes with friends and plays video games.
- polotics 1y agoperfectly theme-consistent: he goes go the (pub that doesn't exist) socializes etc...
- crazygringo 1y ago> Known as “Pocket 3,” the strip of forest roughly the size of the Vatican was among several left unclaimed by both countries after the Croatian war of independence ended in 1995. How does this even happen? A surveying or mapping error? Is it intentional? Why doesn't either country try to claim it?
- marc_abonce 1y agoThe border is a river. But rivers slightly change their course over time. Croatia claims their original pre-Yugoslavia border, based on the historical course of the river. That's because some of its municipalities follow that old line. Serbia, on the other hand, claims that the current course of the river is the border. The unclaimed land loophole happens because the curves of the old and new rivers intersect in a zigzag (or DNA-like) manner, so some pieces of land are claimed by both and some pieces are claimed by neither. The lands claimed by both have more value than the lands claimed by neither so neither country takes over those tiny, unpopulated strips of land because doing so would implicitly accept the other country's border claim and therefore serve as a surrender of the better lands to the other country. Or at least that's my (mis?)understanding, here's more context: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Croatia%E2%80%93Serbia_border_dispute https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Croatia%E2%80%93Serbia_border_...
- BobbyTables2 1y agoSo he doesn’t have to pay property tax?
- m463 1y agoDoes he get to collect it?
- decimalenough 1y agoIsn't this the same place as the previously declared and equally non-existent micro nation of Liberland? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberland https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberland
- onetokeoverthe 1y ago[dead]