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Compensation is essentially top-of-industry, maybe with the exception of the Big 3 AI companies (that’s assuming you believe their RSU valuations, and that an I

Compensation is essentially top-of-industry, maybe with the exception of the Big 3 AI companies (that’s assuming you believe their RSU valuations, and that an IPO will occur). Some projects are OPSEC-restricted, yes. No massages, classes, laundry. Many 9-5 people.

fooker 1y ago
> Compensation is essentially top-of-industry For junior candidates yes. Anyone with 5+ years of good experience, no, it's about half of what you'd make at Google.
- rune-space 1y ago
  You’re talking Google L5? Anduril L5 is similar YOE. I’m seeing ~400k TC for L5 at Google in levels.fyi, Anduril is significantly higher.
  - fooker 1y ago
    No, when I say 5 years I mean something like a PhD + five years in a relevant job. That would be maybe L6 at Google unless you're coasting.
    - rune-space 1y ago
      Of all the moved goalposts…
      - fooker 1y ago
        [flagged]
        rune-space 1y ago
        And how does that relate to this discussion on relative compensation?
        fooker 1y ago
        We are talking about senior employees at a R&D heavy company. You brought up Google L5 as the comparison. It is not. I explicitly mentioned compensation is pretty standard for junior employees.
        rune-space 1y ago
        Alright pal. You haven’t kept a straight line this whole thread (this current message directly contradicts 2x previously established claims of yours). Good day.
  - togetheragainor 1y ago
    If you're using levels.fyi as a reference, Anduril pays its L5s significantly less, not more: https://www.levels.fyi/companies/anduril-industries/salaries/software-engineer/levels/l5 https://www.levels.fyi/companies/anduril-industries/salaries...
    - rune-space 1y ago
      https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45084139 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45084139
- wildzzz 1y ago
  For those in the defense industry, Anduril pays pretty well.
  - fooker 1y ago
    I don't doubt it. Still about half of what a senior role in big tech would amount to. This is an interesting trend for a bunch of newer companies, pay competitively for junior roles but significantly below industry for experienced candidates.
    - therobots927 1y ago
      Classic cult recruitment tactic. Lure people in, hook them, then trap them.
      - rune-space 1y ago
        Your claim is that they don't practice at-will employment?
        bigyabai 1y ago
        Obviously not? The bigger issue is trusting them not to lord your RSUs over you.
        therobots927 1y ago
        Are you familiar with the term "cult"? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cult https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cult
        rune-space 1y ago
        Sure. Do you have a real argument, or are you just aligned with siblings compliant: "this company sucks: when you stop working for them, they stop paying you"
        1y ago
Aurornis 1y ago
> Compensation is essentially top-of-industry, maybe with the exception of the Big 3 AI companies (that’s assuming you believe their RSU valuations, and that an IPO will occur). I guess it comes down to betting on the IPO then? The two recent data points I have are from one person who interviewed, got an offer, and his only reaction was “lol, not a chance”. The other person I know who works there now (according to LinkedIn) was a coworker who was cut for underperformance when we worked together years ago. I’ve heard so many different stories about what it’s like that I don’t know what to believe any more. Calling Anduril comp “significantly higher” than Google does go completely against what I’ve heard from others though. I’ll have to go look again. EDIT: The levels.fyi data looks great for juniors but definitely isn’t higher than Google for L5+: https://www.levels.fyi/companies/anduril-industries/salaries/software-engineer https://www.levels.fyi/companies/anduril-industries/salaries...
- rune-space 1y ago
  Anduril is a decent base with a huge gamble on equity, Google is a sure shot. People that started a year ago at Anduril are today making slightly more than they would be had they stared at Google. People that started 2 years ago are making far more than they would be. And it keeps growing – exponentially – from there.
  - stogot 1y ago
    Exponential growth in salary? Wow! Not realistic…….
    - rune-space 1y ago
      2x every year for the past 8+ years. Realistic? Maybe not. Historic? Absolutely.
  - deleted 1y ago
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fooker 1y ago

> Compensation is essentially top-of-industry For junior candidates yes. Anyone with 5+ years of good experience, no, it's about half of what you'd make at Google.

rune-space 1y ago
You’re talking Google L5? Anduril L5 is similar YOE. I’m seeing ~400k TC for L5 at Google in levels.fyi, Anduril is significantly higher.
- fooker 1y ago
  No, when I say 5 years I mean something like a PhD + five years in a relevant job. That would be maybe L6 at Google unless you're coasting.
  - rune-space 1y ago
    Of all the moved goalposts…
    - fooker 1y ago
      [flagged]
      - rune-space 1y ago
        And how does that relate to this discussion on relative compensation?
        fooker 1y ago
        We are talking about senior employees at a R&D heavy company. You brought up Google L5 as the comparison. It is not. I explicitly mentioned compensation is pretty standard for junior employees.
        rune-space 1y ago
        Alright pal. You haven’t kept a straight line this whole thread (this current message directly contradicts 2x previously established claims of yours). Good day.
- togetheragainor 1y ago
  If you're using levels.fyi as a reference, Anduril pays its L5s significantly less, not more: https://www.levels.fyi/companies/anduril-industries/salaries/software-engineer/levels/l5 https://www.levels.fyi/companies/anduril-industries/salaries...
  - rune-space 1y ago
    https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45084139 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45084139
wildzzz 1y ago
For those in the defense industry, Anduril pays pretty well.
- fooker 1y ago
  I don't doubt it. Still about half of what a senior role in big tech would amount to. This is an interesting trend for a bunch of newer companies, pay competitively for junior roles but significantly below industry for experienced candidates.
  - therobots927 1y ago
    Classic cult recruitment tactic. Lure people in, hook them, then trap them.
    - rune-space 1y ago
      Your claim is that they don't practice at-will employment?
      - bigyabai 1y ago
        Obviously not? The bigger issue is trusting them not to lord your RSUs over you.
      - therobots927 1y ago
        Are you familiar with the term "cult"? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cult https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cult
        rune-space 1y ago
        Sure. Do you have a real argument, or are you just aligned with siblings compliant: "this company sucks: when you stop working for them, they stop paying you"
        1y ago

Aurornis 1y ago

> Compensation is essentially top-of-industry, maybe with the exception of the Big 3 AI companies (that’s assuming you believe their RSU valuations, and that an IPO will occur). I guess it comes down to betting on the IPO then? The two recent data points I have are from one person who interviewed, got an offer, and his only reaction was “lol, not a chance”. The other person I know who works there now (according to LinkedIn) was a coworker who was cut for underperformance when we worked together years ago. I’ve heard so many different stories about what it’s like that I don’t know what to believe any more. Calling Anduril comp “significantly higher” than Google does go completely against what I’ve heard from others though. I’ll have to go look again. EDIT: The levels.fyi data looks great for juniors but definitely isn’t higher than Google for L5+: https://www.levels.fyi/companies/anduril-industries/salaries/software-engineer https://www.levels.fyi/companies/anduril-industries/salaries...

rune-space 1y ago
Anduril is a decent base with a huge gamble on equity, Google is a sure shot. People that started a year ago at Anduril are today making slightly more than they would be had they stared at Google. People that started 2 years ago are making far more than they would be. And it keeps growing – exponentially – from there.
- stogot 1y ago
  Exponential growth in salary? Wow! Not realistic…….
  - rune-space 1y ago
    2x every year for the past 8+ years. Realistic? Maybe not. Historic? Absolutely.
- deleted 1y ago
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