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"with many unwilling to trade the devil they know for the devil they don't" This is a big reason for me - I will only work in jobs where Im working for someone
by moocow01 14y ago
"with many unwilling to trade the devil they know for the devil they don't"
This is a big reason for me - I will only work in jobs where Im working for someone or with someone (whos already with the employer) that I already have a previous relationship with. (This would obviously change if I found myself on street.) The problem is that Ive found that it is extremely rare to find an employer that isn't a schyster ready to milk you, "the resource", for all your worth while paying as little as they can (which these days is admittedly pretty high). In fact in tech this is the normal "good business" practice behind the curtain - get as much as you can out of your employees for as little as you can. And its an extremely small minded perspective that usually over the long term leads to high turnover and horrifying codebases and half assed products that impact the bottom line.
If you find a pretty good employer that your happy with it will cause you to pause when the next opportunity comes along because you might be expected to work 50% more time on CRUD stuff for that extra 20% raise. Its usually somewhat hard to tell from the exterior what your really stepping into.
- nazgulnarsil 14y agoAgreed. The variance in work conditions as a developer is higher than most jobs. And these differences are often quite opaque from the outside.
- indiecore 14y ago>extremely rare to find an employer that isn't a schyster ready to milk you, "the resource", for all your worth while paying as little as they can Isn't that the definition of business? Get as much as you can for as little as you can?
- moocow01 14y agoIt is a very specific definition of business - the problem is that the equation in most employers head is as little pay for the most amount of work done and Ive found that this typically is a poor way to think when producing software that really thrives on creativity and quality. In otherwords, treating it like a factory line with cost spreadsheets typically leads to bad things for the business
- darklajid 14y agoWhat's the definition of 'taking advantage' or 'exploiting'? If that's 'business', can we assume that some people just don't play along these 'business rules'? Arguments like these are the reason that I've a hard time getting along with the sales/marketing (and sometimes management) people around me.
- tuukkah 14y agoIsn't that the definition of business? Get as much as you can for as little as you can? A common misconception, I figure. More correct would be: Get more for less. That is, add value. Perhaps you're expected to maximise the stock price, but as long as the company doesn't go bankrupt, you have a lot of leeway in how you want to work towards that in the long run.