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It’s important to know that Andruil is culturally very similar to Palantir and is run by many ex-Palantir folk. My experience with the latter is very outdated
by mingus88 1y ago
It’s important to know that Andruil is culturally very similar to Palantir and is run by many ex-Palantir folk.
My experience with the latter is very outdated but assuming Andruil is at a similar phase of growth as Palantir was a decade ago, you pretty much nailed it
Someone correct me if I’m wrong:
Underpaid compensation, with a justification that they are only hiring people who are “mission driven”. Heavily military based culture with a “need to know” approach to projects and overreliance on acronyms to align thought. Perks are golden age startup perks with full meal service, massages, fitness classes, laundry because of you are looking for a 9-5 then this is not the job for you
- crinkly 1y agoSounds like when I worked for a defence contractor in the 90s. Felt owned from the moment I woke up until I fell asleep. Didn’t feel human. Just woke up one day and thought fuck it and never went back in. Took 6 months off, went on holiday, slept on my parents sofa and eventually got a shit job wrangling C. Best job ever that was. Better money, unlimited decent coffee, 9-5 hours, a window, a phone on my desk and my own SPARCstation 20.
- rune-space 1y agoCompensation is essentially top-of-industry, maybe with the exception of the Big 3 AI companies (that’s assuming you believe their RSU valuations, and that an IPO will occur). Some projects are OPSEC-restricted, yes. No massages, classes, laundry. Many 9-5 people.
- fooker 1y ago> Compensation is essentially top-of-industry For junior candidates yes. Anyone with 5+ years of good experience, no, it's about half of what you'd make at Google.
- rune-space 1y agoYou’re talking Google L5? Anduril L5 is similar YOE. I’m seeing ~400k TC for L5 at Google in levels.fyi, Anduril is significantly higher.
- fooker 1y agoNo, when I say 5 years I mean something like a PhD + five years in a relevant job. That would be maybe L6 at Google unless you're coasting.
- rune-space 1y agoOf all the moved goalposts…
- fooker 1y ago[flagged]
- rune-space 1y agoAnd how does that relate to this discussion on relative compensation?
- fooker 1y agoWe are talking about senior employees at a R&D heavy company. You brought up Google L5 as the comparison. It is not. I explicitly mentioned compensation is pretty standard for junior employees.
- rune-space 1y agoAlright pal. You haven’t kept a straight line this whole thread (this current message directly contradicts 2x previously established claims of yours). Good day.
- togetheragainor 1y ago
- wildzzz 1y agoFor those in the defense industry, Anduril pays pretty well.
- fooker 1y agoI don't doubt it. Still about half of what a senior role in big tech would amount to. This is an interesting trend for a bunch of newer companies, pay competitively for junior roles but significantly below industry for experienced candidates.
- therobots927 1y agoClassic cult recruitment tactic. Lure people in, hook them, then trap them.
- rune-space 1y agoYour claim is that they don't practice at-will employment?
- bigyabai 1y agoObviously not? The bigger issue is trusting them not to lord your RSUs over you.
- therobots927 1y agoAre you familiar with the term "cult"? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cult https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cult
- rune-space 1y agoSure. Do you have a real argument, or are you just aligned with siblings compliant: "this company sucks: when you stop working for them, they stop paying you"
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- Aurornis 1y ago> Compensation is essentially top-of-industry, maybe with the exception of the Big 3 AI companies (that’s assuming you believe their RSU valuations, and that an IPO will occur). I guess it comes down to betting on the IPO then? The two recent data points I have are from one person who interviewed, got an offer, and his only reaction was “lol, not a chance”. The other person I know who works there now (according to LinkedIn) was a coworker who was cut for underperformance when we worked together years ago. I’ve heard so many different stories about what it’s like that I don’t know what to believe any more. Calling Anduril comp “significantly higher” than Google does go completely against what I’ve heard from others though. I’ll have to go look again. EDIT: The levels.fyi data looks great for juniors but definitely isn’t higher than Google for L5+: https://www.levels.fyi/companies/anduril-industries/salaries/software-engineer https://www.levels.fyi/companies/anduril-industries/salaries...
- rune-space 1y agoAnduril is a decent base with a huge gamble on equity, Google is a sure shot. People that started a year ago at Anduril are today making slightly more than they would be had they stared at Google. People that started 2 years ago are making far more than they would be. And it keeps growing – exponentially – from there.
- stogot 1y agoExponential growth in salary? Wow! Not realistic…….
- rune-space 1y ago2x every year for the past 8+ years. Realistic? Maybe not. Historic? Absolutely.
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- jdgoesmarching 1y agoSounds insufferable, which is unsurprising since Parmer Lucky is the final boss of wannabe airsoft warriors who never served. I’m sure it’s appealing to the Grunt Style vets and sweaty Call of Duty cosplayers they’re scooping up to build weapon systems.
- s5300 1y ago[dead]
- jki275 1y agoThis is a ridiculous set of assertions that is utterly without foundation.
- bigyabai 1y agoMaybe if you don't know who Palmer Luckey is? We're talking about the dude who founded Oculus not to outfit the F-35, but because he was obsessed with Sword Art Online. He's more macross than missile, a flamboyance you can ascertain from Hawaiian shirts or the smell of microwaved pizza rolls. If you put him in a life-or-death situation, he'd simply pray to be reincarnated as a Gainax employee. Luckey is an SBF-tier grifter who I don't trust with my taxpayer dollars and especially distrust with the lives of my family members serving under America's flag. I pray for another "last supper" in Congress by the time this admin is gone.
- jki275 1y agoI am a 20+ year military veteran with multiple deployments. I don’t need to parade my “family members serving under America’s flag” for internet karma. Anduril’s technology is saving lives right now all over the world.
- bigyabai 1y agoWould you like to draw on your vast field experience to refute anything in my comment? Palmer Luckey spent more than a decade cultivating his down-to-earth weaboo persona, if that was all a lie then you need to tell us! It's a matter of national security, nowadays. Though, just judging from the comment you left, you seem more upset with Anduril's reputation than any of what I said. Or your own karma, one of the two.
- torginus 1y agoDunno what you consider underpaid, I doubt anyone outside of FAANG software people would consider $400k/year underpaid. I'm sure for people like analog/digital design engineers, mechanical engineers, CNC machinists (who you all need to build stuff like this), a salary like this is a windfall.
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- jki275 1y agoComp is 2-3x any other defense company. Mission driven is very important. Significant former military representation. Anything DOD related is going to have need to know baked in due to DOD requirements. I’m not sure what your issue is with acronyms, they’re used a lot everywhere in defense. They’re not magic incantations, merely shorthand. Meals yes, the rest of that no, it’s definitely not Google. There are plenty of 9 to 5 jobs, and plenty that aren’t. Depends on what role you’re filling.