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> So, put a toggle somewhere. When the toggle is toggled, put up a big fat warning sheet and say if somebody on the phone or mail asks you to do that, 99.9% it'

> So, put a toggle somewhere. When the toggle is toggled, put up a big fat warning sheet and say if somebody on the phone or mail asks you to do that, 99.9% it's a scammer. The proverbial grandparents will follow the instructions of the scammers and will click through all of that. We've had decades of empirical evidence: people will keep clicking and tapping on dialogue boxes to achieve their goal. People have physically driven to cryptocurrency ATMs on the instructions of scammers: * https://bc-cb.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/ViewPage.action?siteNodeId=2136&languageId=1&contentId=88427 https://bc-cb.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/ViewPage.action?siteNodeId=2136... * https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2025/04/21/bitcoin-atm-scams-consumer-protection/83201725007/ https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2025/04/21/bitcoin-atm-... Warning sheets will do nothing.

dns_snek 1y ago
Okay great, seeing how every reasonable warning and technical restriction is completely pointless and how people will do everything they're told if they're naive enough and the person on the other end is convincing enough, we can skip this whole dance. Because at the end of the day the scammer is going to convince your grandma to go to the bank, withdraw the entirety of her savings and send them to the scammer in an envelope. Any technical restrictions therefore only harm our personal freedoms and don't actually protect those who are vulnerable because those people's problems aren't technical in nature.
broker354690 1y ago
Who cares? Granny is still allowed to buy knives and accidentally chop off her fingers while she cooks. If she ends up doing that it's either her fault or she's too old to be using knives. We don't ban or blunt knives just because you can cut yourself with them.
- throw0101c 1y ago
  > Who cares? Those of us with elderly parents and piblings (aunts/uncles).

dns_snek 1y ago

Okay great, seeing how every reasonable warning and technical restriction is completely pointless and how people will do everything they're told if they're naive enough and the person on the other end is convincing enough, we can skip this whole dance. Because at the end of the day the scammer is going to convince your grandma to go to the bank, withdraw the entirety of her savings and send them to the scammer in an envelope. Any technical restrictions therefore only harm our personal freedoms and don't actually protect those who are vulnerable because those people's problems aren't technical in nature.

broker354690 1y ago

Who cares? Granny is still allowed to buy knives and accidentally chop off her fingers while she cooks. If she ends up doing that it's either her fault or she's too old to be using knives. We don't ban or blunt knives just because you can cut yourself with them.

throw0101c 1y ago
> Who cares? Those of us with elderly parents and piblings (aunts/uncles).