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First off, I think you'll enjoy the following: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4507024 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4507024 The research being do
by jcr 14y ago
First off, I think you'll enjoy the following:
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4507024 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4507024
The research being done is fascinating. It roughly explains why some
people go ballistic when something is said against something they
unknowingly "love" even if it's just a device, technology, or company.
Secondly, if you've studied linguistics at all or know multiple
languages, you'll notice how human languages have significant variance
in their dependency on context. For example, in a "high context"
language like Vietnamese (one of the very highest), things are more
often implied rather than expressed. In a "low context" like English
(particularly American usage of English), things are more often
expressed rather than implied.
In English, the use of irony, satire, and sarcasm are unexpected "high
context" usage of a generally "low context" language. Without being a
native speaker, the intentionally subtle but surprising switch from low
context to high context results in endless amounts of confusion and
miscommunication. A great example would be the recent "Porn Star
Brogrammer" post. If you didn't recognize it as satire, it would be
highly offensive, but even if you did recognize it as satire, many would
still consider it offensive. A lot of satire is still offensive even
if you do understand the context shift and recognize it for what it is.
Lastly, in English the term "argument" (outside of formal logic) implies
disagreement, and often, harsh disagreement or even a fight. If you use
the term "argument" in the sense of formal logic, it's best to qualify
it to prevent misunderstanding.
And yes, a lot of people post on HN for the sake of having a fight,
rather than to have a pleasant and mutually beneficial exchange of
ideas. The smart thing to do when you see heated exchanges or harsh
replies, is to just stay out of it. You have better things to do than
fight with people on the Internet.
http://xkcd.com/386/ http://xkcd.com/386/
If you find someone reacting badly, ignore it. If it still bothers you,
give it a few days or a few weeks to cool off, and then bring it up with
them again politely, and possibly privately. At times, miscommunication
just happen in spite of our best efforts and intents, but trying to
fix it while people are still hot or angry usually makes matters worse.