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That logic does not hold. Being able to provide an immediate replacement is not a requirement to point out limitations in current technology.

• ACCount37 1y ago
  What's the value of "pointing out limitations" if this completely fails to drive any improvements? If any midwit can say "X is deeply flawed" but no one can put together an Y that would beat X, then clearly, pointing out the flaws was never the bottleneck at all.
  • airstrike 1y ago
    I think you don't understand how primary research works. Pointing out flaws helps others think about those flaws. It's not a linear process so I'm not sure the "bottleneck" analogy holds here. We're not limited to only talking about "the bottleneck". I think the argument is more that we're very close to optimal results for the current approach/architecture, so getting superior outcomes from AI will actually require meaningfully different approaches.
    • ACCount37 1y ago
      Where's that "primary research" you're talking about? I certainly don't see it happening here right now. My point is: saying "transformers are flawed" is dirt cheap. Coming up with anything less flawed isn't.
  • jychang 1y ago
    > What's the value of "pointing out limitations" if this completely fails to drive any improvements? Ironically, the same could be said about Attention Is All You Need in 2017. It didn’t drive any improvements immediately- actual decent Transformer models took a few years to arrive after that.