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> Did you know drug cartels are capitalist entities as well? They extort, murder and traffick for profits extracted by labor. Ah so you go for big sounding wel

by spwa4 1y ago

> Did you know drug cartels are capitalist entities as well? They extort, murder and traffick for profits extracted by labor. Ah so you go for big sounding well-known problems, that kill 0.01% of the average socialist state then? Seen that argument too. And I'll show you the problem. They are serious problems ... but not compared to a small socialist problem, say Venezuela. The Venezuelan state is socialist, does what you suggest. To stay directly in your argument: it turned out they work and support drug cartels. So your presenting of socialism as either the opposite or a solution to drug cartels is very disingenuous.

Atlas667 1y ago
Nearly all the countries that support cartels are capitalists. Venezuela is a progressive reformist state with many many capitalists. The reason why its considered a rogue state in your capitalist media is that it wont play ball with the american capitalist block/cartel. Drugs could be made a legal industry in order to end the drug crisis. But drug cartels preserve regulation-less profits. Its literally billions they save by avoiding legality and taxation.
- spwa4 1y ago
  Finally, here we are "that's not real socialism, my version is much better". I would like to point out that EVEN NOW marxists don't see any reason to disavow Chavez. > Venezuela is a progressive reformist state ... That's not how Chavez grabbed power and amassed billions. Not at all. Chavez, the billionnaire drug-cartel supporter, hero of marxist communism. If it didn't destroy so many lives it'd be a sickening joke. Then again, people still see Arafat or Guevara as heroes of communism too, and compared to them Chavez is ... well, a lot smarter, but at least in Chavez's case I'd be reluctant to call him a mass murderer, whereas Arafat and Guevara definitely are mass murderers. Arafat was a billionnaire when he died too. https://marxist.com/chavez-capitalism-transcended-socialism.htm https://marxist.com/chavez-capitalism-transcended-socialism....
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by spwa4 1y ago

Atlas667 1y ago

Nearly all the countries that support cartels are capitalists. Venezuela is a progressive reformist state with many many capitalists. The reason why its considered a rogue state in your capitalist media is that it wont play ball with the american capitalist block/cartel. Drugs could be made a legal industry in order to end the drug crisis. But drug cartels preserve regulation-less profits. Its literally billions they save by avoiding legality and taxation.

spwa4 1y ago
Finally, here we are "that's not real socialism, my version is much better". I would like to point out that EVEN NOW marxists don't see any reason to disavow Chavez. > Venezuela is a progressive reformist state ... That's not how Chavez grabbed power and amassed billions. Not at all. Chavez, the billionnaire drug-cartel supporter, hero of marxist communism. If it didn't destroy so many lives it'd be a sickening joke. Then again, people still see Arafat or Guevara as heroes of communism too, and compared to them Chavez is ... well, a lot smarter, but at least in Chavez's case I'd be reluctant to call him a mass murderer, whereas Arafat and Guevara definitely are mass murderers. Arafat was a billionnaire when he died too. https://marxist.com/chavez-capitalism-transcended-socialism.htm https://marxist.com/chavez-capitalism-transcended-socialism....
- Atlas667 1y ago
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