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I assumed they were already doing this domestically.

robotnikman 1y ago
IIRC there was an act passed in the early 2010's that allowed them to legally do this. Probably been going on for a decade at least
- hungmung 1y ago
  Reminds me of those Army recruitment commercials from a few years back that were advertising their psyops as a career path.
  - throwawayq3423 1y ago
    PSYOPs meaning targeting foreign nations and foreign people. That's not what this is.
    - hungmung 1y ago
      Well, maybe.
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- throwawayq3423 1y ago
  Quite the opposite. There are strict rules against producing propaganda with the American people (in the US) as a target. I'm not aware of any agency with the authority to do so.
  - candiddevmike 1y ago
    Source? There are plenty of counter examples from WW2, Vietnam War, Iraq War(s), etc...
    - throwawayq3423 1y ago
      I'm not aware of any examples of the US government producing propaganda to influence the American people.
  - anonymousiam 1y ago
    I suggest that you review the 2013 NDAA amendment that basically repealed the Smith-Mundt Act, which prohibited the U.S. government from disseminating propaganda to the American public. The original intent was to prevent the State Department and its agencies from engaging in domestic propaganda. One could argue that the changes require that the material be originally intended for foreign consumption, but how does one prove "intent?" https://www.usagm.gov/who-we-are/oversight/legislation/smith-mundt-faqs/ https://www.usagm.gov/who-we-are/oversight/legislation/smith...
    - throwawayq3423 1y ago
      The Smith-Mundt Act was not repealed. It was updated so that content intended for foreign audiences can now be accessed within the U.S. upon request, such as by researchers. The update was necessary because of the global nature of digital information. It became impossible to produce content for foreign audiences that was not also consumed in some way by Americans. It remains strictly forbidden to use government funds to influence public opinion in the United States.
  - sneak 1y ago
    Someone tell all of the Hollywood producers making war movies that the DoD gets final cut on.
    - throwawayq3423 1y ago
      Do you have a verified example of this?
      - sneak 1y ago
        https://lareviewofbooks.org/article/the-cia-goes-to-hollywood-how-americas-spy-agency-infiltrated-the-big-screen-and-our-minds/ https://lareviewofbooks.org/article/the-cia-goes-to-hollywoo... https://listverse.com/2015/12/17/10-hollywood-movie-scripts-altered-by-the-pentagon/ https://listverse.com/2015/12/17/10-hollywood-movie-scripts-... https://ageoftransformation.org/exclusive-documents-expose-how-hollywood-promotes-war-on-behalf-of-the-pentagon-cia-and-nsa/ https://ageoftransformation.org/exclusive-documents-expose-h... https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/hollywood-cia-washington-dc-films-fbi-24-intervening-close-relationship-a7918191.html https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/hollywood-cia-washingto... > Files we obtained, mainly through the US Freedom of Information Act, show that between 1911 and 2017, more than 800 feature films received support from the US Government’s Department of Defence (DoD), a significantly higher figure than previous estimates indicate. These included blockbuster franchises such as Transformers, Iron Man, and The Terminator. https://responsiblestatecraft.org/oscars-military-hollywood/ https://responsiblestatecraft.org/oscars-military-hollywood/ > This partnership comes at a price. In exchange for the use of military personnel and equipment, movie producers must abide by the Pentagon’s strict entertainment policy that grants the DoD final say over a movie’s script. These collaborations frequently require changes to the screenplay that amount to historical revisionism. Spy Culture, the “world's leading resource on government involvement in Hollywood,” has utilized FOIA requests to collect tens of thousands of annotated drafts of film scripts which provide a firsthand glimpse at the breadth of the Pentagon’s influence over the movies we know and love. https://www.spyculture.com/ https://www.spyculture.com/
        throwawayq3423 1y ago

IIRC there was an act passed in the early 2010's that allowed them to legally do this. Probably been going on for a decade at least

hungmung 1y ago
Reminds me of those Army recruitment commercials from a few years back that were advertising their psyops as a career path.
- throwawayq3423 1y ago
  PSYOPs meaning targeting foreign nations and foreign people. That's not what this is.
  - hungmung 1y ago
    Well, maybe.
  - deleted 1y ago
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- deleted 1y ago
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throwawayq3423 1y ago
Quite the opposite. There are strict rules against producing propaganda with the American people (in the US) as a target. I'm not aware of any agency with the authority to do so.
- candiddevmike 1y ago
  Source? There are plenty of counter examples from WW2, Vietnam War, Iraq War(s), etc...
  - throwawayq3423 1y ago
    I'm not aware of any examples of the US government producing propaganda to influence the American people.
- anonymousiam 1y ago
  I suggest that you review the 2013 NDAA amendment that basically repealed the Smith-Mundt Act, which prohibited the U.S. government from disseminating propaganda to the American public. The original intent was to prevent the State Department and its agencies from engaging in domestic propaganda. One could argue that the changes require that the material be originally intended for foreign consumption, but how does one prove "intent?" https://www.usagm.gov/who-we-are/oversight/legislation/smith-mundt-faqs/ https://www.usagm.gov/who-we-are/oversight/legislation/smith...
  - throwawayq3423 1y ago
    The Smith-Mundt Act was not repealed. It was updated so that content intended for foreign audiences can now be accessed within the U.S. upon request, such as by researchers. The update was necessary because of the global nature of digital information. It became impossible to produce content for foreign audiences that was not also consumed in some way by Americans. It remains strictly forbidden to use government funds to influence public opinion in the United States.
- sneak 1y ago
  Someone tell all of the Hollywood producers making war movies that the DoD gets final cut on.
  - throwawayq3423 1y ago
    Do you have a verified example of this?
    - sneak 1y ago
      https://lareviewofbooks.org/article/the-cia-goes-to-hollywood-how-americas-spy-agency-infiltrated-the-big-screen-and-our-minds/ https://lareviewofbooks.org/article/the-cia-goes-to-hollywoo... https://listverse.com/2015/12/17/10-hollywood-movie-scripts-altered-by-the-pentagon/ https://listverse.com/2015/12/17/10-hollywood-movie-scripts-... https://ageoftransformation.org/exclusive-documents-expose-how-hollywood-promotes-war-on-behalf-of-the-pentagon-cia-and-nsa/ https://ageoftransformation.org/exclusive-documents-expose-h... https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/hollywood-cia-washington-dc-films-fbi-24-intervening-close-relationship-a7918191.html https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/hollywood-cia-washingto... > Files we obtained, mainly through the US Freedom of Information Act, show that between 1911 and 2017, more than 800 feature films received support from the US Government’s Department of Defence (DoD), a significantly higher figure than previous estimates indicate. These included blockbuster franchises such as Transformers, Iron Man, and The Terminator. https://responsiblestatecraft.org/oscars-military-hollywood/ https://responsiblestatecraft.org/oscars-military-hollywood/ > This partnership comes at a price. In exchange for the use of military personnel and equipment, movie producers must abide by the Pentagon’s strict entertainment policy that grants the DoD final say over a movie’s script. These collaborations frequently require changes to the screenplay that amount to historical revisionism. Spy Culture, the “world's leading resource on government involvement in Hollywood,” has utilized FOIA requests to collect tens of thousands of annotated drafts of film scripts which provide a firsthand glimpse at the breadth of the Pentagon’s influence over the movies we know and love. https://www.spyculture.com/ https://www.spyculture.com/
      - throwawayq3423 1y ago