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Technically you are correct but the commenter you’re responding to means that with the amount of Western Governments spend on MS products and services, the are

Technically you are correct but the commenter you’re responding to means that with the amount of Western Governments spend on MS products and services, the are a d facto (if not de jure) state backed enterprise.

1718627440 1y ago
Yes, but the power play seams to be more like MS backes several states.
os2warpman 1y ago
US government spending is (for now) easy to track, and you can get totals for spending by corporate entity. In total across the entire US federal government, $518.8 million was paid to Microsoft for products and services in 2024. That is approximately 0.21% of their total annual revenue. I assert that the threshold for "state sponsored" is well in excess of 0.21% of annual revenue. Federal Spending: https://www.usaspending.gov/recipient/dd77b7c3-663e-cb91-229f-5766a50e9b7f-P/all https://www.usaspending.gov/recipient/dd77b7c3-663e-cb91-229... Microsoft Annual Revenue: https://www.microsoft.com/investor/reports/ar24/index.html https://www.microsoft.com/investor/reports/ar24/index.html
- monkeyelite 1y ago
  If you look at Ford and Intel you would find similar numbers - but they are clearly quasi state entities.
- hx8 1y ago
  How much money have states and local governments spent on Microsoft products and services? How much money has Microsoft collected from companies that are providing products and services to US governmental agencies? Government spending is not easy to track. This doesn't even begin to touch on non-monetary benefits Microsoft receives with government influence.
  - howdyhowdy123 1y ago
    Now you are really starting to bend over backwards. The claim was that MS was a state enterprise. It's still not even close.
    - hx8 1y ago
      I'm mostly adding context to the statistic that Microsoft makes 0.21% of its revenue from the federal government, and arguing against the sub-claim that government spending is easy to track.
- howdyhowdy123 1y ago
  Exactly

1718627440 1y ago

Yes, but the power play seams to be more like MS backes several states.

os2warpman 1y ago

US government spending is (for now) easy to track, and you can get totals for spending by corporate entity. In total across the entire US federal government, $518.8 million was paid to Microsoft for products and services in 2024. That is approximately 0.21% of their total annual revenue. I assert that the threshold for "state sponsored" is well in excess of 0.21% of annual revenue. Federal Spending: https://www.usaspending.gov/recipient/dd77b7c3-663e-cb91-229f-5766a50e9b7f-P/all https://www.usaspending.gov/recipient/dd77b7c3-663e-cb91-229... Microsoft Annual Revenue: https://www.microsoft.com/investor/reports/ar24/index.html https://www.microsoft.com/investor/reports/ar24/index.html

monkeyelite 1y ago
If you look at Ford and Intel you would find similar numbers - but they are clearly quasi state entities.
hx8 1y ago
How much money have states and local governments spent on Microsoft products and services? How much money has Microsoft collected from companies that are providing products and services to US governmental agencies? Government spending is not easy to track. This doesn't even begin to touch on non-monetary benefits Microsoft receives with government influence.
- howdyhowdy123 1y ago
  Now you are really starting to bend over backwards. The claim was that MS was a state enterprise. It's still not even close.
  - hx8 1y ago
    I'm mostly adding context to the statistic that Microsoft makes 0.21% of its revenue from the federal government, and arguing against the sub-claim that government spending is easy to track.
howdyhowdy123 1y ago
Exactly