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Tariff's found illegal, but will stay for now
- onetokeoverthe 1y ago[dead]
- msgodel 1y agoTariffs definitely weren't illegal in the past, most of the federal government's revenue came from them up until the IRS was created.
- verzali 1y agoTariffs approved by congress are not illegal. Tariffs imposed arbitarily by executive order are, at least according to this ruling.
- toomuchtodo 1y agoWhat does it look like when everyone sues to claw back the unlawful tariffs paid? YC startup opportunity (take a cut of whatever you claw back for customers).
- hypeatei 1y agoThis would be hard to do given sovereign immunity. I highly doubt you'd get them to waive their immunity for an "official act" done by the President. The FTCA does allow for some exceptions but it's pretty narrow.
- toomuchtodo 1y agohttps://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44127151 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44127151
- gamblor956 1y agoTLDR the other comment's citations: The USG has already waived sovereign immunity with respect to improper customs duties, by statute. This actually happens quite a bit, so there are well-established procedures for this. It's just never happened on this scale before.
- toomuchtodo 1y agoTrump faces returning $100bn in tariffs after court ruling - https://www.thetimes.com/article/a09594e1-46f2-413a-8cba-5077237d8ab3 https://www.thetimes.com/article/a09594e1-46f2-413a-8cba-507... - September 1st, 2025 > Researchers at the Capital Economics consultancy said that if the Supreme Court agreed that Trump had abused his presidential powers the “Treasury would still need to return most of the now close to $100 billion in additional customs duties collected”. They added that countries and trading blocs, such as Britain and the European Union, could also “backtrack on any preliminary [trade] agreements”.
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- duxup 1y agoThis whole thing where “well this is wrong but you have to pay the illegal tax anyway” makes no sense.
- ajd555 1y agoDefinitely odd to see that the default is to let this keep happening, counterintuitive is a word that comes to mind
- TimorousBestie 1y agoIt was the obvious consequence of SCOTUS getting rid of the nationwide TRO, but here we are anyway.
- 3eb7988a1663 1y agoViolation of the Constitution? Guess we will continue to let it slide until some future date.
- msgodel 1y agoThe constitution is ultimately enforced by nullification/secession. If the states don't want to do their job the violations will likely continue.
- jerlam 1y agoSimilar to "you lost the election, but you have the same power for almost three months".
- adastra22 1y agoIt’s in the constitution, and it made sense when it was written. A gradual transition of power still makes sense imo.
- dragonwriter 1y agoThe Presidential transition is within a few days of one month after the voting in the election that elects the President (and even less time after those votes are counted.) It’s about 2½ months after the elections in which the people that elect the President are elected, but that’s a whole separate election.
- mitchbob 1y agohttps://archive.ph/jEHau https://archive.ph/jEHau
- dmitrygr 1y ago> Tariff's found illegal, but will stay for now Can someone please fix the title? Apostrophes are not used like this.
- southwindcg 1y agoArticle title: "Trump’s Global Tariffs Found Illegal by US Appeals Court"
- cosmicgadget 1y agoNondelegation is about to disappear from the scotus vocabulary for a couple of months.
- saubeidl 1y agoRule of law is dead in the US. It's sad watching it slide further and further into autocracy.