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There is nothing ICE can do but lay down their uniform and run. They might be forgiven then.
by Ms-J 1y ago
There is nothing ICE can do but lay down their uniform and run. They might be forgiven then.
- jacquesm 1y agoI don't think that should be enough. What is really amazing is that even knowing - as a species - all of our history we manage to commit the same faults over and over again. There are always going to be people waiting in the wings that can't wait to become the next installment of campguards, gas chamber operators and gestapo. It is unbelievable to me, and have a hard time coming to terms with it because we should be better than this by now. But no, we'll just bang our heads against the rock one more time see if the outcome is different this time around. It's collective insanity on a massive scale.
- m_fayer 1y agoIt’s simply that our collective memory fades over a few generations, becomes a ramble of dry facts of little consequence that most people don’t know or care about. Israel had built itself as a veritable temple of memory culture, and even that hasn’t lasted all that long. How this trait mixes with 20th and 21st century technology and its weapons? It seems quite dark to me. We’ve dodged a few bullets but I’m not at all convinced we’ll stop firing or keep successfully dodging.
- jacquesm 1y agoIt is so frustrating though. It's like watching a train wreck in slow motion and there isn't a thing you can do about it.
- like_any_other 1y ago> campguards, gas chamber operators and gestapo Right, it's either open borders or gas chambers, no in-between. Meanwhile most countries manage to enforce their borders without committing genocide, and most Slavic countries even split apart into ethnic enclaves (called "fall of the Soviet union", "Balkanization", and the Czech-Slovak split), and now manage to coexist peacefully, save for those trying to reverse those splits (i.e. Russia). The root question is: do you support the right to national self-determination, or not? Do you support the continued existence of distinct nations, or not? If you demand open borders, regardless of a people's preference, then you fundamentally oppose both of those.
- jacquesm 1y agoYou already have concentration camps and razzias, did you think the Nazi's started with gas chambers? > Meanwhile most countries manage to enforce their borders without committing genocide And without concentration camps. And without Razzia's. The US apparently can not. > and most Slavic countries even split apart into ethnic enclaves (called "fall of the Soviet union", "Balkanization", and the Czech-Slovak split), and now manage to coexist peacefully "now" is doing a lot of work in that sentence. > save for those trying to reverse those splits (i.e. Russia). And factions in Hungary. And Slovakia. And Germany. This isn't over, not by long shot.
- like_any_other 1y ago> "now" is doing a lot of work in that sentence. Yeah somehow different ethnic groups forced to share countries didn't make everyone like each other, so some of the splits were messy. You wanna know what it looks like when they don't split? It looks like the Holodomor. So clearly the answer is even less borders.
- analognoise 1y agoIf the “national self determination” is that masked men run around terrorizing families and workers, they deserve to be fought.
- dzhiurgis 1y agoDeporting convicts = gestapo? Missing a /s?
- jeffbee 1y agoImagine believing they have a uniform.