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https://xcancel.com/ID_AA_Carmack/status/1961172409920491849 https://xcancel.com/ID_AA_Carmack/status/1961172409920491849

ypeterholmes 1y ago
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- cubefox 1y ago
  The Twitter algorithm is open source, unlike the algorithm for Facebook, Instagram, TikTok etc. I'm not aware of any evidence for bias in the algorithm.
  - thrance 1y ago
    It's not though. The GitHub repo was never updated once. Here's an experiment for you: open X in a new private tab and count political posts, see how many of them are far right. Bias is evident.
    - cubefox 1y ago
      > The GitHub repo was never updated once. Pretty sure that's false: I remember seeing the recent commit that made Grok misbehave. > Here's an experiment for you: open X in a new private tab and count political posts, see how many of them are far right. Bias is evident. Go to Bluesky and count far left posts. The result will be similar, because political bubbles form by themselves.
      - actionfromafar 1y ago
        Nazi bubbles form naturally around nazi owners.
      - thrance 1y ago
        https://github.com/twitter/the-algorithm https://github.com/twitter/the-algorithm Not updated in two years. > Go to Bluesky... At least people are not fantasizing about "race wars" or discussing the "jewsish question" there. Two subjects I saw multiple times on X's front page.
      - wredcoll 1y ago
        This attempted equivalence is wild. I'm not sure if you're uninformed or malicious, but "far right posts" means posts talking about "the jews taking over" or some other racist drivel and discussing which minority to attack next. "Far left posts" are like, what, people should have access to healthcare? People should pay more taxes?
        cubefox 1y ago
        Recently, anti-Jewish sentiment seems actually more common among the far left. > "Far left posts" are like, what, people should have access to healthcare? People should pay more taxes? No, like abolishing the police, open borders, calling the war against Hamas a "genocide", censorship of any statistics on race, IQ and crime, cancelling people for things that were considered completely normal 15 years ago, etc.
        wredcoll 1y ago
        Wow, yeah man, referring to an attempt to exterminate a population as a genocide is definitely just as bad as calling for the extermination of minorities. That's definitely the same level of morally wrong. Like, this is literally my point, "abolishing the police" may not be the most effective way to build a better society, but there's absolutely nothing morally or ethically wrong with saying it. If you don't get this, I'm genuinely not sure how to explain it, but here's a short attempt: A police force/buildings/cars/employees are an artificial construct created by a series of laws passed by a (in this case) democratic government. Repealing/passing new laws that removes the police system is just a neutral action in the same way that creating them in the first place was. People say "abolish the police" because they genuinely believe it will help everyone. People do not say "deport brown people" because they think it will help everyone. You get how this is different, right? Also, lol, you said "cancelling people" like it was a real thing. What happened, did someone have an invitation rescinded because they said something offensive? Wow, yeah, uninviting someone is definitely some kind of awful moral hazard. That person was entitled by his existence to give that speech, dammit!
    - numpad0 1y ago
      There's been a lot of anecdotal reports circulating that retweets don't work anymore, likes slightly better, quote tweets do best, links should be in replies, etc. They're hiding a lot of quote tweets as "unavailable" and shuffling thread orders as well. Twitter right now is not just biased, but they have been struggling for a long while to disrupt its resilient emergent meritocracy that don't favor Musk.
- radialstub 1y ago
  The platform is still usable, just block anyone who posts politics in your timeline, eventually it all becomes technical stuff.
  - saubeidl 1y ago
    It still normalizes use of what has effectively become a far-right propaganda machine and thus the purposeful destruction of democratic institutions.
- worthless-trash 1y ago
  Thats how conservatives feel on many other online platforms with far left views.
  - thrance 1y ago
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  - numpad0 1y ago
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  - saubeidl 1y ago
    Which big platform has far left views? I'm not familiar of any platform that calls for collective ownership of the means of production, land redistribution and other far left positions.
- deleted 1y ago
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c54 1y ago
Neat website, thanks for posting. Basically necessary to avoid the twitter “paywall”
cobertos 1y ago
Didn't even realize this was a thread and not a single tweet until you posted this link. Guess that's the downsides of not having a Twitter acct anymore.
dang 1y ago
We'll put that link in the top text too. Thanks!

ypeterholmes 1y ago

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cubefox 1y ago
The Twitter algorithm is open source, unlike the algorithm for Facebook, Instagram, TikTok etc. I'm not aware of any evidence for bias in the algorithm.
- thrance 1y ago
  It's not though. The GitHub repo was never updated once. Here's an experiment for you: open X in a new private tab and count political posts, see how many of them are far right. Bias is evident.
  - cubefox 1y ago
    > The GitHub repo was never updated once. Pretty sure that's false: I remember seeing the recent commit that made Grok misbehave. > Here's an experiment for you: open X in a new private tab and count political posts, see how many of them are far right. Bias is evident. Go to Bluesky and count far left posts. The result will be similar, because political bubbles form by themselves.
    - actionfromafar 1y ago
      Nazi bubbles form naturally around nazi owners.
    - thrance 1y ago
      https://github.com/twitter/the-algorithm https://github.com/twitter/the-algorithm Not updated in two years. > Go to Bluesky... At least people are not fantasizing about "race wars" or discussing the "jewsish question" there. Two subjects I saw multiple times on X's front page.
    - wredcoll 1y ago
      This attempted equivalence is wild. I'm not sure if you're uninformed or malicious, but "far right posts" means posts talking about "the jews taking over" or some other racist drivel and discussing which minority to attack next. "Far left posts" are like, what, people should have access to healthcare? People should pay more taxes?
      - cubefox 1y ago
        Recently, anti-Jewish sentiment seems actually more common among the far left. > "Far left posts" are like, what, people should have access to healthcare? People should pay more taxes? No, like abolishing the police, open borders, calling the war against Hamas a "genocide", censorship of any statistics on race, IQ and crime, cancelling people for things that were considered completely normal 15 years ago, etc.
        wredcoll 1y ago
        Wow, yeah man, referring to an attempt to exterminate a population as a genocide is definitely just as bad as calling for the extermination of minorities. That's definitely the same level of morally wrong. Like, this is literally my point, "abolishing the police" may not be the most effective way to build a better society, but there's absolutely nothing morally or ethically wrong with saying it. If you don't get this, I'm genuinely not sure how to explain it, but here's a short attempt: A police force/buildings/cars/employees are an artificial construct created by a series of laws passed by a (in this case) democratic government. Repealing/passing new laws that removes the police system is just a neutral action in the same way that creating them in the first place was. People say "abolish the police" because they genuinely believe it will help everyone. People do not say "deport brown people" because they think it will help everyone. You get how this is different, right? Also, lol, you said "cancelling people" like it was a real thing. What happened, did someone have an invitation rescinded because they said something offensive? Wow, yeah, uninviting someone is definitely some kind of awful moral hazard. That person was entitled by his existence to give that speech, dammit!
  - numpad0 1y ago
    There's been a lot of anecdotal reports circulating that retweets don't work anymore, likes slightly better, quote tweets do best, links should be in replies, etc. They're hiding a lot of quote tweets as "unavailable" and shuffling thread orders as well. Twitter right now is not just biased, but they have been struggling for a long while to disrupt its resilient emergent meritocracy that don't favor Musk.
radialstub 1y ago
The platform is still usable, just block anyone who posts politics in your timeline, eventually it all becomes technical stuff.
- saubeidl 1y ago
  It still normalizes use of what has effectively become a far-right propaganda machine and thus the purposeful destruction of democratic institutions.
worthless-trash 1y ago
Thats how conservatives feel on many other online platforms with far left views.
- thrance 1y ago
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- numpad0 1y ago
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- saubeidl 1y ago
  Which big platform has far left views? I'm not familiar of any platform that calls for collective ownership of the means of production, land redistribution and other far left positions.
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c54 1y ago

Neat website, thanks for posting. Basically necessary to avoid the twitter “paywall”

cobertos 1y ago

Didn't even realize this was a thread and not a single tweet until you posted this link. Guess that's the downsides of not having a Twitter acct anymore.

dang 1y ago

We'll put that link in the top text too. Thanks!